Qualification Conundrom

[darren5354]

Hi All,

I've had a real headache over this problem for the past few weeks as I can not seem to get any accurate advice! I have just found this site and browsed a few of the threads and believe that some of you may finally be able to help me? (Please!)

I am ex RAF and unfortunately I've been disabled for many years. I am on the road to recovery and I've decided that my ultimate goal is to become an Electrician and set up my own business (This isn't a whim, I have thought it through and realise that it's not going to happen easily/overnight)

My idea is that I will obtain the qualifications necessary first. My Conundrum is as follows:

As I said, I am ex RAF. I was an Avionics Mechanic (Tech Stream). My Qualification Details are: Avionics Mechanic Accredited by the City and Guilds of London Institute, Awarded a CG 2249-Electrical Servicing at RAF Cosford in 1998. This is a Certificate of Unit Credit Towards Electronic Servicing Part 1, Joint Certificate with EEB. I was successful in the following three components:

ELECTRONIC SYSTEMS CREDIT
ASSIGNMENTS PASS*
PRACTICAL TEST PASS*

PASS* Indicates no higher grade is possible in this component.

My First question is: What modern qualification is this equal to?

My Second question is: What further qualifications would I need to gain to become a self employed domestic electrician?

I have researched these questions already but would ask that you be as comprehensive in your reply as you can/like as I believe the more information gleaned from your answers the more informed I become lol ( I suppose what I'm trying to say is that I'm not being lazy, I know that I will need C&G 2382-12 etc but I want to be sure that I have covered all the basis). What my qualification is equal to? has me stumped lol!

I would like to take this opportunity to thank you kindly, in advance, for your answers/help, Thank you!

 

[Guest55]

I'm sorry biff55 but your replys just reak of someone bitter and didn't answer any of my questions? Why post?

i gave you a perfectly good suggestion in my first post.
sounds like youre one of the many who ignore anything you dont want to hear.
and i post because i give many hours of effort on this forum , rather than just signing on for 5mins then making ill informed comments to someone trying to give genuine advice.

dont like it then do one.

 

[KFH]

Darren, There is a lot of good advice on here. Doing domestic is not as easy as it sounds. 20% is probably electrical, the rest is moving furniture, carpets, lifting floorboards, chasing walls, digging holes in ceilings, digging trenches across: lawns, paths concrete, a bit of: plumbing, carpet laying, plastering, joinery, plumbing, phones, TV & sat aerials, network cabling and making it all good.

Getting the experience to do all the above competently in someones home as well as not making a mess of the electrics takes time to pick up. With the market as it is at the moment you will find it hard to get a job where you can learn.

I agree with the others that you may be better using the skills you already have and expanding on those rather than changing course.

Good luck.

 

[Dave 85]

As far as Im aware mate you dont need 2330 L3 to be a registered domestic spark. unless the Part P requirements have changed recently, you only actually need the 17th edition qual and perhaps a 2391 type testing qual. To get on a 17th ed course you usually need to have either 2330 level 2 or one of the mickey mouse part P type quals.
As far as im aware people of any age can get on 2330 L2 its just the taxpayer wont fund it if yer over 25.

 

[NickD]

Hi mate,

Qualifications wise you will want 2382 (17th edition), 2394 (test and inspection of new work) and BPEC Part P full scope. Plus 2377 if you want to PAT test and 2395 if you want to do test and inspections of existing installations (periodic inspections, condition reports etc.). I believe I am right that this is what the Part P registration bodies would look for in your circumstances - but please don't take it as Gospel. I'll leave it to others to rant about what you need over and above the pieces of paper. Be aware though, the Part P assessment guidelines (EAS) change in a couple of weeks and you will need to demonstrate two year's experience (e.g. portfolio) to get full-whack assessment in order to go it alone.

 

[PeterPan27]

Domestic

OK the route in lvl 2 2330 electrical installation (mostly 3 days a week) 1 year or 1 evening a week for 2 years..

Level 3 2330 electrical installation.. same most place 3 days a week or can do the night class.

17th edition 30 hours and 1 gola exam you will need purchase the up to date regs book for this, (£60 ish ) you could get this course free when doing 2330 full time if complete early in alot of colleges.

Initial verification inspecting and testing 2392-10 30 hours lessons 1 pract exam 1 gola exam

2394 inspection testing 30 hours 1 prac 1 written exam

2395 inspection testing 30 hours 1 prac 1 written exam

also if you can get someone to sign some work that you do you can do your NVQ and AM1

 

[NickD]

I believe the 2392 has been superseded by the 2394/2395 pair? There's a GOLA online test for them too.

 

[PeterPan27]

no the 2391 has changed to the 2394/95 mate 2392 is still there the first 1 you do.. initial verification inspection and testing level 2

I believe the 2392 has been superseded by the 2394/2395 pair?

 

[NickD]

Sounds like I may stand corrected...however you can in principle go straight in at the level 3 2394/5 quals, yes? I appreciate you will struggle without the right background.

 

[wade88]

Darren i have a better job offer.

I house bash, you person bash, when they don't pay me. You get 20% and can make as quick or slow job of it as you please.

"Need a spark, look no further - but if you don't cough the cash, your guna get a bash" van signage?

 

[PeterPan27]

I have 2330 level 2 2330 level 3 17th edition , pat testing

my college made me do the 2392 first said i wasnt able to go straight to 2394 so not sure if that was them being (you know) or actually a rule.

Sounds like I may stand corrected...however you can in principle go straight in at the level 3 2394/5 quals, yes? I appreciate you will struggle without the right background.

 

[NickD]

Pardon my curiousity Darren but if you were out by 2000, when did you tour in Afghan? I'm probably getting muddled.