qualifications

kristian · Mar 16, 2011

hi, i completed an apprenticeship a few years back, 2360/07 and city and guilds 2351.
all industrial,

ive recently just done my 17th edition top up and got a job working on domestic buildings. do i need to do a seperate part p qualification or am i covered. im looking into doing the 2391 testing, but until then i wanna make sure im covered to work on houses! im also required to do some pat testing and understand im ok to do that as long as im competent! is that correct?

cheers

Martin Bradley · Mar 16, 2011

you have to register with one of the approved bodies, and have them come out each year to asses you, and your work also ask you some questions and check paper work and insurance and blah blah lots, and dont forget to pay them a nice sum.

kristian · Mar 16, 2011

im registered with the jib. do i need to be with nic or someone aswell?

Johnny-G · Mar 16, 2011

kristian said:
im registered with the jib. do i need to be with nic or someone aswell?

You don't actually need any qualifications at all to do domestics, although it's advised to have some at least.
Your employer (if you have one) may already be registered with a scheme provider so they can notify any work you do so you don't need a building regs qualification or Domestic VRQ (Part P) either.

kristian · Mar 16, 2011

so technicaly im ok to work on domestic propertys? my employer is an emergency call out firm and are just starting the electrical division so im pretty sure they wont be registered and im sort of a sole trader working for them. trouble is i dont have any testing qualifications i cant test or certify my work after. essentialy i want to be able to do the work, test it and then sign it off

Martin Bradley · Mar 16, 2011

My infomation was based on you working for yourself, and getting the work yourself, but if a company that you are already working for is asking you to do the work they should be registerd with a boddy, JIB just says if you have a understanding of the health and safety codes of practice. oh and it might have your quals on the back of card.

kristian · Mar 16, 2011

yea i got my jib card, at the minute the only qualifications on there are my nvq level 3 but will hopefully have testing and inspection on there soon

SirKit Breaker · Mar 16, 2011

kristian said:
so technicaly im ok to work on domestic propertys? my employer is an emergency call out firm and are just starting the electrical division so im pretty sure they wont be registered and im sort of a sole trader working for them. trouble is i dont have any testing qualifications i cant test or certify my work after. essentialy i want to be able to do the work, test it and then sign it off

In a nutshell, no you dont need any qualifications to work on domestic electrics. But you have the 17th which is deemed to be the minimum requirement.
You can't get a part P qualification, Part P is a building regulation not a city and guilds or any other qualification.
If you wish to self certify Part p compliance then you will need to join a Part p self certification scheme provider like Elecsa, Napit, NIC etc. You will have to go on their website to see what the criteria is, as they do differ a bit.
If you dont go down the self cert route, you can inform LABC pay the fees and get on with the job, but this option is a bit pricey in the long run.
To go Part P self cert, it will cost about £500 plus the cost of meeting the requirements of the scheme with things like test kit, insurance etc etc.

Cheers........Howard

kristian · Mar 16, 2011

ah i get. thats the info i was after, nice one howard. ill have a word with the company and see wat they want to do then

Martin Bradley · Mar 16, 2011

Are you sure you have a NVQ level3, as you would need to meet certain criteria, that would cover all you have asked?
what colour is you JIB card.
Im not trying to knock you.

kristian · Mar 16, 2011

yea i got my gold ecs card, expires this month though so have to take the cscs test again. i did my apprenticeship with NG Bailey a few years back then wen i finished went travelling for a year and a half then came back and did mechanics. now i wanna get back into electrics but have been away for so long. and my apprenticeship was industrial workin on multi million pound building sites! never done domestic work so not really sure about the qualifications for it. and ive never done testing apart the brief testing block at college and on my am2

VoltzElectrical · Mar 16, 2011

In no way is what I am about to say intended to rubbish the OP (disclaimer over)

Should I be amazed at just how much misunderstanding goes on over this issue? Because I am. Fairplay to everyone who has taken the time to carefully and fully explain the requirements and procedure.