Qualifying for ECS card

[RomRobi]

Hi Guys, I need some advise on this one. I have been wanting to apply for a ECS card for quite some time now, but wasnt too sure if I would qualify for any of the ECS card.

I havent done any apprenticeship, but had my 2360 Pt 1&2 minus AM2 test. I have worked on both commercial and domestic Installations for the past 15yrs, and as time when by, I have managed to acquire the folowing qualification to date.
1. 2381 requirements for electricians- 17th
2. 2391 Inspection and testing
3. Part P
4. Level 3 Intruder alarm systems

and 3yrs ago my employer sent me on a post graduate course thereby acquiring an HNC in EEE.

I am confident in taking on the AM2 test, but wondering if without it I can still qualify for any of the ECS card.

Every response will be highly appreciated.

 

[Richard Burns]

I think you would get a trainee electrician card with those qualifications.
They are very specific on the qualifications needed for eligibility
I assume the 2381 you state is the 2382 and it is for the current edition 17th amd1.
To get any further you would need to do the AM2 and the NVQ level 3.

The ECScard.org website has clear information (if you can find it) stating the requirements.
This is a partial summary and an extract document from the ECS application form that may help.

View attachment ECS_Electrician qualifications Appndx A.pdf

ECS Trainee Electrician
To be eligible for an ECS Trainee Electrician card, applicants must:
Be a trainee who is not a ‘bona fide’ Advanced Modern Apprentice (AMA) and able to supply one of the following sets of documentation, which will determine the level of trainee electrician card awarded:

Trainee electrician (Stage 1)
A copy of your City & Guilds 2360 Part one, 2351 Units 1,2,3 & 4 or EAL Certificate in Electrotechnical Technology Level 2 –plus your Employer’s sponsorship (See Section 1c of the application form)


Trainee electrician (Stage 2)
A copy of your City & Guilds 2360 Parts One & Two, 2351 - All eight units or EAL Certificate in Electrotechnical Technology Level 3 –plus your Employer’s sponsorship (See Section 1c of the application form)


Trainee electrician (Stage 3)
A copy of your City & Guilds 2360 Parts One & Two, 2351 - All eight units or EAL Certificates in Electrotechnical Technology Level 2 & 3 –plus your Employer’s sponsorship (See Section 1c of the application form). In addition, evidence that you are working towards the AM2 and level NVQ 3 in your chosen field is required

– and –
Hold a current (up-to-date) Health & Safety Certificate or recognised H&S qualification. For details visit the ECS H&S test information area.

 

[ackbarthestar]

Why do a part P course after doing 2360?. That would seem to be a backward step.

There's lots of us out there without a recognized formal apprenticeship but have done the core qualifications and various other courses.

Follow this link for the various electrical skills

ECS Card

 

[rougediablo]

They used to allow you to get your employer to support your grading application if you didn't have a formal apprenticeship etc but had the relevant quals etc & could prove you had worked in the industry.

My Gold Approved Electrician Card says "Industry Assessed" on the back along with my C&G's etc. 1st registered with them in 1998 though so they may have changed the entry requirements by now.

 

[Engineer54]

You're probably over qualified by todays standards in my opinion. But the JIB seems to have this set path, that has no facility to apply commonsense, as the people that are undertaking these checks and balances will generally have no electrical background whatsoever. As far as i'm concerned, the old 2360 pre multiple choice era, out classed the 2330, and certainly the new equivalent by a margin and a half!! lol!!


The only Good thing about the JIB's set-up is that you won't find a single Electrical Trainee in it's ranks anywhere, unless they have found a way to fraudulently present qualifications they do not possess!!

 

[Matt Lowden]

The 2391 and an employee letter would get you a ECS card.

 

[edexlab]

The 2391 and an employee letter would get you a ECS card.

I've heard of people doing this and there seems to be no real rules here, some people with less than 10 years experience get a card by this method others with more experience are told no you have to have an NVQ 3 did you get yours this way Matt? if so how much time on the job did you have when you applied?