Replace ceiling rose with pendant?

[StevenN80]

Hello

I’m looking to replace my ceiling rose with a pendant light. The ceiling rose has 2 red wires 2 black wires and 2 earth wires (photo attached)

Am I ok to put the wires straight into the pendant connection block(2nd photo attached)

Thank you

 

[littlespark]

It may be quite a squeeze to get 2 conductors into those small connectors that come with the new light fitting.

And the bare earth wires need some green/ yellow sleeving over them

 

[StevenN80]

Thanks for the quick response. If I can’t fit the wires into the new pendant can I use connector blocks and 3 core wire to extend them?

 

[telectrix]

you should be able toconnecrtexisting wires intothechoc block.makesit easierif you loosen it fistfrom the earthtag.then reconnect after. note prebious comment asbout the bare earths.

 

[nicebutdim]

you should be able toconnecrtexisting wires intothechoc block.makesit easierif you loosen it fistfrom the earthtag.then reconnect after. note prebious comment asbout the bare earths.

If they can read that post, wiring the new light should be comparatively easy

 

[7029 dave]

If they can read that post, wiring the new light should be comparatively easy

Yup Tel is on the Boddingtons

 

[littlespark]

You ok, Tel? We’re a bit worried about you.

 

[telectrix]

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[brianmoooore]

It may be quite a squeeze to get 2 conductors into those small connectors that come with the new light fitting.

And the bare earth wires need some green/ yellow sleeving over them

Probably get criticised over this, but those connector blocks come in several different sizes, and I have been known to change the original for one size larger.

 

[littlespark]

Probably get criticised over this, but those connector blocks come in several different sizes, and I have been known to change the original for one size larger.

I was going to suggest the connectors with 2 push in terminals on one side, and spring hold flex on other

 

[nicebutdim]

Probably get criticised over this, but those connector blocks come in several different sizes, and I have been known to change the original for one size larger.

Often the best solution and one that still firmly clamps the little earth tag provided.

 

[Mike Johnson]

Wago 294 x 3 way: 294-4013 | Wago, 294 Female 3 Pole Power Supply Connector, Rated At 24A, 500 V | RS Components - https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/lighting-connectors/1364961?cm_mmc=UK-PLA-DS3A-_-google-_-CSS_UK_EN_Connectors_Whoop-_-Lighting+Connectors_Whoop-

 

[loz2754]

Wago 294 x 3 way: 294-4013 | Wago, 294 Female 3 Pole Power Supply Connector, Rated At 24A, 500 V | RS Components - https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/lighting-connectors/1364961?cm_mmc=UK-PLA-DS3A-_-google-_-CSS_UK_EN_Connectors_Whoop-_-Lighting+Connectors_Whoop-

Looks great. But not sure how that would connect to the metal earth prong on the light fitting shown.

 

[brianmoooore]

Looks great. But not sure how that would connect to the metal earth prong on the light fitting shown.

It wouldn't. Still uses for choc bloc strips yet!

 

[Mike Johnson]

Perhaps something like this: https://www.amazon.co.uk/TUPARKA-El...sr_1_14?adgrpid=107840638270&gclid=Cj0KCQiA3- or even the earth tag may fit inside the lever connection end.

 

[nicebutdim]

Perhaps something like this: https://www.amazon.co.uk/TUPARKA-El...sr_1_14?adgrpid=107840638270&gclid=Cj0KCQiA3- or even the earth tag may fit inside the lever connection end.

A lot of work to avoid the simplicity of a choc block.

 

[Mike Johnson]

A chock block on flex is not a good idea, the 3 way 294 Wago is no work at all.

 

[littlespark]

All this just cos I suggested the connector block fitted might not take two of each.

 

[brianmoooore]

A chock block on flex is not a good idea

What flex? The flex that is part of the fitting will already have ferrules on its ends.

 

[Mike Johnson]

Yep they should, got a bit ahead of myself there.

 

[Mike Johnson]

I was going to suggest the connectors with 2 push in terminals on one side, and spring hold flex on other

And that is exactly what a 294 is except it's a double spring hold.

 

[StevenN80]

Thanks everyone for the replies. I’ll see if the wires fit first in the pendant if not use choc blocks. Cheers