Replacement fan in toilet does it need a certificate?

[Striker]

Hi all,

I changed a toilet fan about 4 months ago, the fan was faulty so I replaced it like for like, I may be wrong but I thought I did not need to give a certificate under these circumstances as none of the wiring was changed.

The client has just been in touch saying they need one as they are selling the house and the solicitor says it's holding things up.

Your advise please.

Cheers,
Andy

 

[danzor]

Are you sure the solicitor doesn't want a cert for the whole property? Can't see a fan cert holding up a sale of a property, anyway shouldn't need a cert

 

[Sintra]

Hi all,

I changed a toilet fan about 4 months ago, the fan was faulty so I replaced it like for like, I may be wrong but I thought I did not need to give a certificate under these circumstances as none of the wiring was changed.

The client has just been in touch saying they need one as they are selling the house and the solicitor says it's holding things up.

Your advise please.

Cheers,
Andy

No cert is required if you only done a like for like replacement.

 

[sparkswillfly]

if thats what will satisfy them do a mw at cost

 

[Mac]

This is from Part P Building Regs.
Q5: What types of electrical work are 'non-notifiable'?

The following types of work are non-notifiable:

• Replacing accessories such as socket-outlets, control switches and ceiling roses
• Replacing the cable for a single circuit only, where damaged, for example, by fire, rodent or impact (1.)
• Re-fixing or replacing the enclosures of existing installation components (2.)
• Providing mechanical protection to existing fixed installations (3.)
• Installing or upgrading main or supplementary equipotential bonding (4.)
• Work that is not in a kitchen or special location and does not involve a special installation (5.) and consists of:
  • Adding lighting points (light fittings and switches) to an existing circuit (6.)
  • Adding socket-outlets and fused spurs to an existing ring or radial circuit

 

[amicus]

Sounds like he's found another excuse to keep the funds a while longer.

 

[ian.settle1]

This is from Part P Building Regs.
Q5: What types of electrical work are 'non-notifiable'?


The following types of work are non-notifiable:

• Replacing accessories such as socket-outlets, control switches and ceiling roses
• Replacing the cable for a single circuit only, where damaged, for example, by fire, rodent or impact (1.)
• Re-fixing or replacing the enclosures of existing installation components (2.)
• Providing mechanical protection to existing fixed installations (3.)
• Installing or upgrading main or supplementary equipotential bonding (4.)
• Work that is not in a kitchen or special location and does not involve a special installation (5.) and consists of:
  • Adding lighting points (light fittings and switches) to an existing circuit (6.)
  • Adding socket-outlets and fused spurs to an existing ring or radial circuit

If part of a bathroom then it may come under special location.

 

[Mac]

If part of a bathroom then it may come under special location.

Op quoted toilet fan in his thread.Don't want to sound picky mate,he never mentioned a bathroom

 

[saveloy]

Found this from ECA
Subcategory - 1. Part P of the Building Regs - Voltimum UK - Electrical Installation Products and Contracting

Although it refers to a shower, I think it covers your question.
Hope this helps.

 

[Striker]

Cheers,

Thanks for your quick response.

Andy

 

[roukel01]

We were told that any alteration no matter how small should warrent a Minor Works Certificate, if you touch a circuit, then it becomes your responsibility and therefore should be tested to verify it is safe, and the best way to document its OK is to issue a minor works.

Its a pain, and usually takes longer than the actual job, but its the best way to cover yourself

 

[michaelw6]

We were told that any alteration no matter how small should warrent a Minor Works Certificate, if you touch a circuit, then it becomes your responsibility and therefore should be tested to verify it is safe, and the best way to document its OK is to issue a minor works.

Its a pain, and usually takes longer than the actual job, but its the best way to cover yourself

Similar to what roukel said we were told by elecsa if in doupt or if anyone askes just do a minor works but no need to register it.
mike.