Replacing tails/DNO seals etc

[Octopus]

Having read a few threads on here isn't it about time that our trade organisations got together and petitioned the suppliers to agree a consistent process by which all registered part p electricians can break seals on the main fuse for isolation, the seal on the meter and then replace them with temporary seals.

Got a last minute CU change to do this week and I doubt I'll be able to get the "supplier" out to isolate the house for me - what a pain!!

Anyone in favour?

 

[i=p/u]

well cant you give them ring and maybe they let you, like people have said in other posts???

 

[james29022004]

If you are working in scottish and southern electricitys area there is allready a scheme in place where you can get temp seals
no such luck with edf though

Having read a few threads on here isn't it about time that our trade organisations got together and petitioned the suppliers to agree a consistent process by which all registered part p electricians can break seals on the main fuse for isolation, the seal on the meter and then replace them with temporary seals.

Got a last minute CU change to do this week and I doubt I'll be able to get the "supplier" out to isolate the house for me - what a pain!!

Anyone in favour?

 

[MarkieSparkie]

James, Do you have any further information on the S&SE scheme.

 

[Guest123]

Having read a few threads on here isn't it about time that our trade organisations got together and petitioned the suppliers to agree a consistent process by which all registered part p electricians can break seals on the main fuse for isolation, the seal on the meter and then replace them with temporary seals.

Got a last minute CU change to do this week and I doubt I'll be able to get the "supplier" out to isolate the house for me - what a pain!!

Anyone in favour?

They did try and failed as no agreement could be reached.

 

[james29022004]

I dont know if i can post links but here goes
http://www.scottish-southern.co.uk/...reRemovalReplacementCompanyCutOutsv106pdf.pdf
http://www.ssepd.co.uk/SSEInternet/...tion_specifications/ProcedureOnTheRemoval.pdf 2nd link is the most up to date information
James

James, Do you have any further information on the S&SE scheme.

 

[brian1962]

Glad you did, very help full. Will keep these in the van.

 

[somersetsparks]

As said before, in our area, all new supplys and service renewals (replacement supplys) are fitted with a meter with an isolator and the facility to remove the customer side tails without being able to interfere with the supply side tails - Gonna take a few years to come to evry property mind!

 

[ezzzekiel]

was a long drawn out debate last year over it which conluded in the energy providers spitting their dummys out and saying no, its much safer for a meter fitter to attend a 1 day course and learn to do it correctly rather than allow us stupid electricians to have a go.

 

[cbw]

I have decided round here they use radio seals, twice now the meter reader has turned up whilst I am doing a CU change!!!

Both times they said that as long as the main meter seal is still intact it does not matter that the other seals fell off.

 

[nickblake]

As the guys have said its been disgust , the ESC are still in talks with them regarding this infact the ESC have got a picture of mine (Before you say it not a pic of me ) but a picture of a Meter with numerouse sizes of tails ,i agree something needs to be done and in another post on the subject it was suggested that a course be done so we can do this work ,i would like a seal with numbers issued to the spak for him and other numbered seals for every one then its written on the cert in the comments or limitations box so its traceable ive now twice contacted the DNO and arranged work so they can cut and re seal but on each occasion they have not turned up very annoying when one site was a two hour drive away and ive got to go back i have done the same for a CDU change tomorrow bet they dont turn up

 

[Engineer54]

eeez,

For the vast majority, ....There what your called ''semi semi skilled'' And in reality, using the word ''skilled'' in the same sentence as meter fitter is somewhat tongue in cheek, to say the least!!! lol!!!

 

[alanl]

I know it is not always practical, but I've found that if you ring up the Suppliers, tell them you are doing a CU change, would they be kind enough to come and fit a isolation switch and new tails to the old CU at the property, then they are quite willing to send someone out to fit the isolator. Of course, you'll probably have to buy the Iso and tails beforehand.
It costs £30ish more, but it certainly worth it to save time and trouble.
I've done it twice in the last 3 months for CU changes, and both were done within 2 weeks, which was perfect for me, as i usually book jobs in 2 - 3 weeks ahead.
Alan.

 

[Engineer54]

Don't you think the customer has paid enough in standing charges over the years, not to be supplied a switch fuse completely free of charge.... Well not free, they have paid for it many times over and will continue paying long after it's been installed!!! lol!!!

 

[nickblake]

Especially when one of the electricity suppliers is british gas with its billions of pounds of profit , its some of thier meters very complicated subject