Rodents chewed neutral tail insulation

[jeffelectric]

Passed 2330 last week, thought i'd practice testing at home for 2392 next month.
Lots of evidence of mice being around ,no dead ones tho .
so i need to replace the tail. the neutral tail goes to the meter no isolator. so safe isolation would be to remove the
main fuse and carry out repair? But am i right that i should not break the seal on the cutout?

 

[supasparxs]

no you are not allowed to break the seal,
however if the seal is already broken, from before you moved in,
then just pull the fuse and change the damaged tail

 

[oldtimer]

You could fit a henly block or contact the DNO if you do not want to break the seal also with regards to mice they can be a problem in kitchens especially where people use a lot of vegtable oil as this get caught up in the steam and then settles on the cables running on top of the wall cupboards then the mice come along and nibble away at them and then muggins here gets the job to sort it out.

 

[mackers]

YE when i worked at disney paris we had alot of trouble with a big mouse running around everywhere!

 

[oldtimer]

YE when i worked at disney paris we had alot of trouble with a big mouse running around everywhere!

I worked with a guy who worked on the disney cruise ship and he said Minnie was a hell of a girl

 

[ipf]

YE when i worked at disney paris we had alot of trouble with a big mouse running around everywhere!

Aye......chewing frogs legs.........just like rubber.

 

[DNS1]

On the subject of rodent damage...

I extended a kitchen ring recently, cable was run in the cavity below the wooden floor (ground level). I crimped on a new piece of T+E and wrapped it all in self-amalgamating tape.

When I took the boards up again a few weeks later, it looked like part of the tape had been chewed, but there was no damage to the T+E at any point on it's length.

Anyone know what's happened here? Just coincidence, or do mice just like the taste of self amalgamating tape?

 

[jeffelectric]

hi, can i just make sure nothing is drawing current in house , turn everything off at db ,pull out neutral tail . cut trim and put back in? am i right this system is tn-c-s pme?

 

[cook1e]

looks more like tns to me
pictures not clear or my glasses need cleaning
martin

 

[ipf]

tns it seems

 

[telectrix]

you will need about 6" - 8" of tail inside the CU. do not attempt that. as a temporary measure, you could tape over the damage. only way to repair is either fit a henley block or replace the tail.

 

[Darkwood]

screw an earthed tray near to tails rub cheese onto the live tail and sit back and wait for the darkwood mousetrap to work

 

[Knobhead]

At least with a Henley block you don’t have break the meter seal. Now should the cut out fuse seal just happened to have fallen off you could install your own isolator. save a lot of faffing about.

 

[Guitarist]

Or contact the DNO and ask them to fit an isolator if it is free of charge. Save you a few quid.

 

[alarm man]

Passed 2330 last week, thought i'd practice testing at home for 2392 next month. View attachment 11420
Lots of evidence of mice being around ,no dead ones tho .
so i need to replace the tail. the neutral tail goes to the meter no isolator. so safe isolation would be to remove the
main fuse and carry out repair? But am i right that i should not break the seal on the cutout?

are you sure thats rodent damage? they tend to chew when cables are through a hole they want to get through,seeing as theres a large gap next to it doesnt make sense,also whats the patch of wall next to the neutral,looks like drill damage to both imo..

 

[mackers]

get it cut and put an henley block in and move on !

 

[mickys86]

screw an earthed tray near to tails rub cheese onto the live tail and sit back and wait for the darkwood mousetrap to work

excellent!!

 

[jeffelectric]

thanks everyone will repair the tail. good news a cat came by offered his mouse catching services for 2 tins of tuna a day .
regards

 

[alarm man]

thanks everyone will repair the tail. good news a cat came by offered his mouse catching services for 2 tins of tuna a day .
regards

give it 3 and it will replace the tail too..
:tongue3:

 

[D80]

give it 3 and it will replace the tail too..
:tongue3:

Cheaper to get a spark in, tuna is so expensive these days!

 

[D80]

Passed 2330 last week, thought i'd practice testing at home for 2392 next month. View attachment 11420
Lots of evidence of mice being around ,no dead ones tho .
so i need to replace the tail. the neutral tail goes to the meter no isolator. so safe isolation would be to remove the
main fuse and carry out repair? But am i right that i should not break the seal on the cutout?

Not sure is that is rodent damage or just a bit of a bodged install. Enough room there to poke your finger up and get to the busbar. More than enough room for a mouse to get into that CU.

 

[Engineer54]

It's most definitely TN-S!! So what makes you think it's TNC-S then??

 

[jeffelectric]

i first thought it was tn-s as there is obviously earth return on sheaf, it was the pme label on the earth that confused me.

 

[dixon9]

no you are not allowed to break the seal,
however if the seal is already broken, from before you moved in,
then just pull the fuse and change the damaged tail

I must admit, I've always been fortunate enough to find the seals already broken on every single job I've been on...

 

[Engineer54]

i first thought it was tn-s as there is obviously earth return on sheaf, it was the pme label on the earth that confused me.

Well there is certainly no sign of a neutral earth link showing on the posted photo!! Even if the photo is a little fuzzy when blown up in size!! lol!!