Schedule Of Inspections question

[Benjjy02]

Im sure this is a
regular question on here but here we go again

If the “Routing of cables in prescribed zones” requires ether a tick or a cross on the Schedule of inspections, for i.e. a CU replacement, but the
routing of the cables is a mystery to the installer, What should be
done?

This is for my NICinspection so I appreciate any help

Thanks
Ben

 

[malcolmsanford]

I would put an n/a in it as your work is concerned with just changing the CU and as nothing to do with how the cables are run

 

[topquark]

There's a sticky on CU changes you should read

Edit: here http://www.electriciansforums.net/e...ctrical-regulations/12971-cu-changes-you.html

 

[Benjjy02]

@ malcolmasanford- Im only a rookie at this, but my understanding is with an EIC only a tick or cross is acceptable.

@ topquak- I wouldnt like to disagree with greater men than me, but iv alway been led to believe once you replace the PD then you are responsible for that
circuit. Do you know where it says “only responsible for work done”?

Thanks for your responses

 

[Guest123]

You are issueing an EIC for the work you have carried out nothing else.

So in the 'extent of installation covered by this certificate' box you would write 'upgrading of CU only' When it then comes to the 'routing of cables in prescribed zones' box on the inspection schedule you would write N/A as you havn't installed and cables only replaced the CU.

 

[telectrix]

OK. say you are replacing a CU. the only way to find out if cables are roted in prescribed zones is :

1. lift floor boards to ensure cables are below 50mm deep, drilled through joists, not notched. 2. use a metal/cable detector on the walls to ensure the cables are vertical and/or horizontal from accessories (no diagonal runs).

suppose that cables run under the bathroom floor which is tiled. are you going to rip up tiles and flooring to determine cable location?

that is where the n/a or n/v comes in. what you can't check, you have to enter as malcolm said. no use ticking a box if you can't verify.

 

[i=p/u]

record all deviations if you put an X

 

[Sintra]

record all deviations if you put an X

There shouldn't be an X on an EIC as you are only certifying the work described in the 'extent of installation covered by this certificate' box. ie your work.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

There shouldn't be an X on an EIC as you are only certifying the work described in the 'extent of installation covered by this certificate' box. ie your work.

In fact 632.4 requires you to rectify any defects or ommissions revealed during inspection and testing before the Certificate is issued.

 

[FAA Greenie]

I'll throw this one in then, I always put a tick in it. I have stated in the EIC that the certificate is for the replacement of the CU only, hence the schedule is applicable to the work I am doing on the CU. Therefore I have routed all the cables that I have dealt with in a prescribed zone. This also applies when I move accessories and the like so long as I have described where I have done so, ie 'kitchen area only'. Any thoughts on that? I'm always open to corrections and other ideas....

 

[ezzzekiel]

I agree with the above
Explained the work carried out and signed that what I have done complies with the rest of the document

 

[Deleted member 26818]

I'll throw this one in then, I always put a tick in it. I have stated in the EIC that the certificate is for the replacement of the CU only, hence the schedule is applicable to the work I am doing on the CU. Therefore I have routed all the cables that I have dealt with in a prescribed zone. This also applies when I move accessories and the like so long as I have described where I have done so, ie 'kitchen area only'. Any thoughts on that? I'm always open to corrections and other ideas....

I would only tick the box, if I had actually installed cables.

 

[JUD]

@ malcolmasanford- Im only a rookie at this, but my understanding is with an EIC only a tick or cross is acceptable.

Who has told you it is acceptable to put a cross on an EIC.

The only time you should be putting a cross in any of the boxes is on a PIR.

 

[telectrix]

if unable to verify something i use N/V rather than N/A.

 

[IQ Electrical]

I'll throw this one in then, I always put a tick in it. I have stated in the EIC that the certificate is for the replacement of the CU only, hence the schedule is applicable to the work I am doing on the CU. Therefore I have routed all the cables that I have dealt with in a prescribed zone. This also applies when I move accessories and the like so long as I have described where I have done so, ie 'kitchen area only'. Any thoughts on that? I'm always open to corrections and other ideas....

Fully agree, once you have completed the 'Details Of The Installation' box then you have limited your liability and anything on the Schedule of Inspections can only relate to your work description.