Scrap the Ring final circuit

[Midwest]

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This was my little discovery, installed circa 1960's, revealed 2015.

This socket had been plastered over, presumably when the hose was built, behind a kitchen floor unit. The property had a CU replacement a couple years prior to my work. The 'RFC' had been converted into 2 x radials, as (I expect) the electrician (CU one or original) couldn't obtain continuity, but did not disconnect these legs. I only discovered it, when re-locating the kitchen sockets, and noticed the cable drop in the ceiling void.

 

[telectrix]

midwest 1 - cowboys 0.

 

[Pete999]

midwest 1 - cowboys 0.

We was robbed

 

[Midwest]

midwest 1 - cowboys 0.

Radials 1 RFC 0

 

[davesparks]

Totally agree Dave, was trying to point out specific issues regarding RFC vs radial

Thee are very few specific issues with RFCs which don't affect radials. Poor quality work affects everything.

 

[KennyKen]

Is OP an Aussie? Sure sounds like one.

 

[Pete999]

Radials 1 RFC 0

You realise if RFCs are done away with that means a new set of Regs, new qualifications to pay for, because believe me if it happens, the IET will br rubbing their hand together thinking of the influx of cash, as will the training companies, you can just imagine it.

 

[Midwest]

Can't see why. Remember watching some training video - was a couple of years ago now - Dave Austin demonstrating RFC testing. In his preamble, he said that the EU were going to ban RFC's, not that's going to happen now

 

[Pete999]

Can't see why. Remember watching some training video - was a couple of years ago now - Dave Austin demonstrating RFC testing. In his preamble, he said that the EU were going to ban RFC's, not that's going to happen now

If the IET can make money out of any changes, believe me they will, the NICEIC and all the others will go into overdrive with courses, exams ror new qualifications eg I'm Radial trained now.

 

[telectrix]

could then incorporate it into the building regs....... part R.

 

[Andy78]

Training for RFC testing would still have to exist as they would still be encountered in the workplace for many decades to come even if not recognised.

 

[Pete999]

could then incorporate it into the building regs....... part R.

What I have Part P and Part R? Crikey

 

[Cadgey123]

Is OP an Aussie? Sure sounds like one.

I worked in Aus for a few years so maybe I have been converted.

 

[NDG Elecs]

I am often quite surprised by how good the results are on many RFCs I test. Obviously get icky ones too, but tbh I find some satisfaction in finding and fixing dodgy end to ends. Can be a pita, but always nice to hear the mft beep in delight! Yeah, yeah, I'm a saddo!

 

[Specialist]

It's ok NDG your among friends here .

Like many have said, I see faulty Radials as well as RFC's. Banning RFC's won't cure the stupidity of some DIY nut job who decides he wants more sockets, or the Laziness / Incompetence or sheer poor training of some "Electricians".