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Just a thought! my place ive got single phase supply coming in but 2 meters! ie it used to be 2 semi detached properties! now ive got 2 MPN numbers? could i subject to sse approval put in 2x 4kw systems (DOUBLE BUBBLE) cant see why not?
 
I would say it will be classed as one site , so it would be treated as a 8kw system , if you do a bit of digging on this site you will find a reference to the document you need to read . I have it and would maybe able to find it somewhere but at the moment time is of the essence !
 
Needs to be a separate MPAN and separate billable address, we've run into this one on industrial estates where single factories have multi MPAN's the need separate addresses aswell... although I do know people that have done it and got away with it... depends are you feeling lucky punk.. :tounge_smile:
 
Yet another grey area...... good luck finding an answer. I know poeple who have done it, although i would always tell a client it is not possible. Although i know others don't..

I went to survey a sports clubs once who were after a 12KWp installation. They were 3 phase. An installer had told them they could get 3 x 4KWp on one on each phase and get the higher feed-in-tariff. I told them it was not possible. The other installer got the job, cause he was offering higher FIT's...
 
You definitely can't register 3x4kW at 43.3p each just because you have 3 phase on a single site.

It is quite possible that it would get through initially simply because it doesn't get checked carefully enough but you would be living in fear waiting for an audit and then finding ALL your FiTs payments stopped and some more serious consequences too.
 
Fraud is fraud and they Will make it painful when they find out !
The document that you posted 18/11 on your rather excellent Blog Ted says it all in section 3.44 i would say !
 
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I've spoken to SSE about this a few times in regard to farm installations. They are happy to have 4KW on 1 meter (house) and more on another (farm) and have both at the higher rate. I suggest you have an honest conversation with your dno and see what they say
 
It all comes down to the acceptable definition of a 'site'. One site can only have one PV system, and any multiples of panels/inverters will be added together to get the TIC that determines the tariff.

This is OFGEM's most recent guidance on this:

Defining "Site"

2.4. "Site" is defined as:
"the premises to which are attached one or more accredited FIT installations or eligible installations in close geographical proximity to each other, to be determined as required by the Authority by reference to: The relevant Meter Point Administration Number (MPAN) for electricity supply Street address OS grid reference
and any other factors which the authority at its discretion views as relevant."

2.5. In addition to the requirements set out in the definition of "site", the other factors that we will also assess the installation against include the requirements of the RO Order and our definition of "generating station".

2.6. A domestic or non domestic postal address at which an installation (or several installations of the same technology) is located would normally be viewed as a single site, but not in every case. Applications are assessed on a case-by-case basis taking into account each of the factors detailed in paragraphs 2.4 and 2.5 above. The overall bounds of an installation are taken into account when making a determination.

2.7. In areas where no postal address exists, the Ordnance Survey (OS) grid reference will be taken from the position of the import/export meter(s) and the area served by the meters will normally be viewed as a single site.

2.8. For installations located on a private wire network, the point where the private wire network connects to the grid will be considered the import/export point of the site. All installations located on a private wire will be considered to be located on the same site. Only electricity which enters the national grid system is eligible to receive FITs export payments.
 

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