Should I stay or should I go now??

[BillyTheSparks]

Hi I am NICEIC part 'P' Domestic Installer scam. I have been with them for three years now and find that I'm paying the annual fee for not much in return.
I know that they all charge a rip-off amount for what they call a 'Service', but I was wondering as the title suggests; should I stay with them and pay the fee, or go with another scam provider?

I would just like your suggestions and any info that you have to offer. I'm not bias and will take on board all the pros and cons

Many thanks in advace

Billy

 

[Des 56]

I am not with the Niceic and personally I never will,they can't go downhill in my estimation because they have already hit rock bottom,however,as far as part pants is concerned there really is no difference with any of the scams, as far as I can tell

They all let us notify works and thats about it

 

[BillyTheSparks]

So I'm paying £478.80 +VAT for the privalege of letting them know that I've done a job. And then paying £1.50 +VAT for 'Insurance' for each job?

That is pretty S#!T.

So how much does it cost for me to tell the LABC via email etc of a job that I have done?

Could I become a part 'P' organisation? Or could we as a forum become a organisation and cut the cost of this scam to ourselves?

 

[oldtimer]

its tough times and they are not helping themselves as I said they will badge anything with a heartbeat but at the same times they will not kick anyone out because they will lose the subs and they are sales driven ie get the numbers up and sell them services . We must be the only trade in this country that has had to absorb the continual changes with regards to regs , COPs C&G Calibration fees not forgetting the Schemie fees.

In my view the NICEIC are only interested in the closed shop of big electrical contract and maintenance contracts and they are not interested in the small guy. Can you imagine if a local council sourced a local electrician to repair a pendant or light switch but no that just aint going to happen plus what other supervisory body can inspect your work advise that you need to get your qualifications up to scratch then sell you the course to do it conflict of interests come to mind.

Its your shout

 

[Octopus]

So how much does it cost for me to tell the LABC via email etc of a job that I have done?

I did a job recently in Berkshire and they charge £210.00 per job for notification, inspection, etc. so on that basis 3 jobs per year and you're making a saving.

How many notifiable jobs do you do per year?

 

[telectrix]

which just goes to prove that the scam providers are not the only sharks in the pond.

 

[BillyTheSparks]

Going by that then Murdoch, it is a saving. As I do submit more than three jobs a year.

Are they all pretty much the same price? What would be the chances of playing one against the other I wonder??
I'll have to speak to the ones I know about and see....

Does anyone one know what the organisation requires to be able to be registered with the government? (If it is registered with the government).
As I said before, could the forum come up with a co-operation type organisation to save us all the expense...

 

[Octopus]

Various people have mentioned Stroma in the past, being cheaper to register with and notify.

Don't know if anyone has actually registered with them and can give any feedback

 

[trev]

I looked at it a few weeks ago Billy, the governement had a pretty tight deadline for getting the registration in place but next time it opens I intend to be ready for it. There's a lot more Ts to cross and Is to dot but hopefully.......

 

[StuSpiers]

Depends on your clients.

Purely domestic (your own customers) any will do.

If you work for rental agencies they may prefer nic.

Any council work will require nic too.

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I looked at it a few weeks ago Billy, the governement had a pretty tight deadline for getting the registration in place but next time it opens I intend to be ready for it. There's a lot more Ts to cross and Is to dot but hopefully.......

If you need any help.......

 

[trev]

If you need any help.......

When the time comes Stu I intend to rely on my learned friends here

 

[Jdsparky]

It's not a saving at all really as we all lose out in the end by having to do 1 or 2 decent jobs, for our profit on those to go on paying the annual subscription which is extortionate.....so essentially we work for free for a bit, to pay someone to come round once a year and say we can do our jobs right, especially when it's not that easy to find jobs to make money on in the first place....but oh well that's life, and if you want to play by the rules that's what we have to do....rant over .

 

[oldtimer]

The thing is its a mess and the tail is wagging the dog here and now it is out of control as we all have stories about them I used to workin maintenance and there was guys on nightshift that would do pencil maintenance ie go for a kip and fill in the sheets as maintenance done.

 

[robsparky1975]

the niceic are the most well known compared to the others and when i have my annual assessment this thursday i will have a chat with phil from elecsa and raise my concerns that i have never seen anything from elecsa on advertising and pushing the part p message to domestic customers/press releases etc,so its down to us and makes me wonder why do i pay £444 a year to tell people about why they should use a registered part p blah blah,thats not my bleedin job its theirs anyhow,if you want to save £100 go elecsa who are more friendly then the nic and notification is simple enough.

 

[Guitarist]

I have written to my LBC about raising awareness with the public about part P through their own publications and local free papers..... They acknowledged that it was a good idea and will consider it. I'm not holding my breath.