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I was asked by a plumber colleague, to have a look at a shower/steam cubicle, someone had asked him to install. The client had purchased the thing off ebay about a year ago, and has just been in a position to have it installed. The thing has come with no manufacturers instructions, and the company who the client bought it off, are refusing to return his calls. At this point, I was walking to the door. The client wanted the plumber to connect the shower value to the properties hot/cold water, but was also wanting to connect up the steam ouput. We tried to convince the client to cut his losses and get rid of the thing, but was adamant to have the shower side of it working, but at least he decided not to connect up the steam. He's going to connect up all the led lighting etc himself. I've attached some pics. Do you think I'm over reacting?

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Sorry about the big pic, can't seem to get rid of it. Think the shower was made in China, cos only about 1700mm headroom inside :)

PS; googled 'xinhuida' on the plug top, and they make cling film.
 
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Why shouldn't he use it?
In your opinion is it defective, even dangerous, or do you just get the opinion it's cheap Chinese rubbish?
You could suggest the customer gets a specialist steam room service company to give it a once over, although they might not be cheap - we had a problem with an extract fan; I was off so one of the handymen got a company in to tell us it was broken, and charged £600 for the half hour he was there.
 
I was asked by a plumber colleague, to have a look at a shower/steam cubicle, someone had asked him to install. The client had purchased the thing off ebay about a year ago, and has just been in a position to have it installed. The thing has come with no manufacturers instructions, and the company who the client bought it off, are refusing to return his calls. At this point, I was walking to the door. The client wanted the plumber to connect the shower value to the properties hot/cold water, but was also wanting to connect up the steam ouput. We tried to convince the client to cut his losses and get rid of the thing, but was adamant to have the shower side of it working, but at least he decided not to connect up the steam. He's going to connect up all the led lighting etc himself. I've attached some pics. Do you think I'm over reacting?

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yes absolutely.
 
...Do you think I'm over reacting?

No.

If you're not convinced that the equipment conforms to UK/EU safety standards (despite the CE marking on some parts) or that you may not be able to install it in accordance with the regs or equivalent safety, then walk away. It appears from the photos that the manufacturer expects the supply to be via a 13A socket, which doesn't inspire confidence, given that this is a shower cubicle.
 
I'm guessing the 13A plug is the supply just for the steam generator and the bling, not for the shower itself. If there's any obvious compliance issues then avoid it. If it's got a CE approval on it then I'd probably just connect it and see.
 
13amp plug supplies the steam input and led light etc, plate does say max 3kw (dependant on voltage). It has 'CE' mark on it, but that's not worth the cling film it's been printed on. No manufacturers details etc. No clue as to wear its been manufactured or tested. I did say to the client, that I wouldn't of spent my money on it, but its up to him if he wants to plug it in, but I wouldn't want to shower in it.
 
Fitted a few whirlpool baths and multi function shower cubicles in the last year or so that come with a similar plug top / RCD arrangement, the instructions usually tell you to do away with it if the installation is fitted with RCD / RCBO's and connect using an appropriate method that complies with local regulations
So that removes one of the problems you have
 
As an electrician, you should be able to decide whether you think it is safe to use, if it is, then install how the customer wants, if it is not, then don't install it...
 
As an electrician, you should be able to decide whether you think it is safe to use, if it is, then install how the customer wants, if it is not, then don't install it...
Err that's what I did. Without any instructions on how to install........there appear to be a few plumbing accessories missing..... and how to operate, I advised not to use it. It appears to be second hand, and who knows if the steam generation is going to operate safely. Apart from marrying up the few led lights, fans etc, which was a simple process, the electrical connection is just one plug top. So the customer can decide for himself. Personally, I wouldn't of bought like that in the first place, its a piece of crap.
 

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