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It is illegal to get someone to sign off your work

DONT DO IT!

Someone can however issue a PIR but that is not the same as signing off and wont meet LABC Regs.
 
Whilst i have you attention.......


I have traded for 7 years doing all kinds of work,extensions, basements, bathrooms, kitchens etc, but never notified any of it, except the extensions where i had it signed off by someone else.

The jobs that came under part p of the building regs will not have been logged
There may be problems for the householder when they come to try to sell their property,on the other hand you may have got away with it, like many others,cross fingers and hope for the best

As stated by others, you cant get work signed off, or at least the spark is foolish for doing so
 
My wicked ways are all in the past now anyway. I am on my way to being a proffesional electrician.

I dont know exactly how they were signed off, but they were, must have been a PIR.

So how does the DIYer get work done on his own house signed off? LBC?
 
Are the cable ends twisted together? Researching causes of electrical fires, I read an article that explained how when twist-ons fail it is often a few cms below the actual joint. It explained the science ....if its of interest let me know and I will try to find a copy to post.
 
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Where are the cable ends twisted together? Researching causes of electrical fires, I read an article that explained how when twist ons fail it is often a few cms below the actual joint. It explained the science ....if its of interest let me know and I will try to find a copy to post.

If you wouldn't mind.
 
Prob telling people to suck eggs but With tails its always best when installing to tighten the terminal then give them a really good shake (and i mean hard) to get the cores to settle then re-tighten. this then stops contact being made to only a few cores and lessens the chances of it becoming lose it time. Mr wiggy tip you won't get a college.
 
If you wouldn't mind.
Its taken a while but here is the reference:

"Long-term failures of twist-on connectors was studied by BĂ©land [45]. When two copper wires were
joined by a twist-on connector without adequate tightening, he found that failures commonly occur
due to metal loss, but this always occurred “several inches” away from the connector, not at the
connector itself. This was discovered to be a corrosion problem. Overheating of the connector
liberates HCl gas from the PVC wire; the gas is corrosive and attacks copper. Over long periods,
metal loss occurs to the point that a connection can be completely severed"

from Citation: Babrauskas, V., phd, How Do Electrical Wiring Faults Lead to Structure Ignitions? pp. 39-51 in Proc. Fire
and Materials 2001 Conf., Interscience Communications Ltd., London (2001).
 
Took you a few months... :lol:

I never knew that, everyday is a school day etc etc etc...
 

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