socket in skirting board in new pub

[ben2012]

ive been lookin at a job and cant decide if this is ok or not, someone else has already put wiring in and i was just looking at something else at the time, but it got me thinking! its a solid floor so no access below and dressed stone with vaulted ceiling above so it looked like it would be difficult to get round! some timber has been fit to the wall and their is going to be some panelling fit to it and skirting at the bottom. now hes on about fitting metal boxes to the wall and then cutting the skirting round these and fitting brass sockets flush on the front. i know that its obviously not going to be 450mm but its not a private dwelling and the sockets would be high enough so as to allow a plug to fit in easily. any thoughts on this?

 

[terminator]

Who is using the socket outlets is irrelevant with respect to the RCD protection of the cable, just the outlet.

The poster above who comments on people hitting a 6" nail into a wall, simple answer is sack them for gross incompetence, and unauthorised works.
If they are going to undertake construction related works in a commercial premise, then they MUST be competent.

If they can hit a cable with a nail then they are NOT competent, that is gross industrial misconduct and carries instant dismissal with the associated other issues that go with being that incompetent and undertaking such works that they are not competent or authorised to do, else the incident would never have happened.

My comment regarding a 6" nail, was meant to be a light hearted tongue in cheek - I didn't think it would cause raised blood pressure. :smilewinkgrin:

 

[netblindpaul]

No raised blood pressure here, it is just the muppet interpretations of electrical stuff I seem to have to deal with every day, it is just this time, it seems it may have been in jest, which it is not normal.

 

[terminator]

Well I'm no muppet and I think the regs are concerned as much with cable protection as well as the socket outlet, or why would they make an exception for steel capped cable or armoured?

 

[netblindpaul]

I can't believe that you said that, and it's now time for my bed, as I am up stupidly early tomorrow.

 

[terminator]

Not sure what you are referring to? You must have had a bad day?

 

[telectrix]

me too. the theakstons and the tramadol have kicked in, so it's time to hit the sleep button on the lappy.

 

[Adam W]

Who is using the socket outlets is irrelevant with respect to the RCD protection of the cable, just the outlet.

The poster above who comments on people hitting a 6" nail into a wall, simple answer is sack them for gross incompetence, and unauthorised works.
If they are going to undertake construction related works in a commercial premise, then they MUST be competent.

If they can hit a cable with a nail then they are NOT competent, that is gross industrial misconduct and carries instant dismissal with the associated other issues that go with being that incompetent and undertaking such works that they are not competent or authorised to do, else the incident would never have happened.

I was thinking more about the height.
In a pub you should probably assume 'unskilled' people are going to be carrying out work - pubs are renowned for it.
Add to that drunk customers splashing beer around and I would say RCD protection is a good idea.

 

[Geordie Spark]

I would have given you a like Tel, but you don't seem to have a 'like button'? lol.

Just as well .......... we don't want him getting all big-headed do we?

 

[terminator]

Just as well there's not a dislike button as I seem to have upset Netblindpaul? I always fit new sockets on rcd's in pubs and clubs these days - nothing to do with regs but I do think it will eventually become a requirement!

 

[Silly Sausage]

I was thinking more about the height.
In a pub you should probably assume 'unskilled' people are going to be carrying out work - pubs are renowned for it.
Add to that drunk customers splashing beer around and I would say RCD protection is a good idea.

Also, with the proliferation of all these mobile devices that require charging; in pubs and other public places, where Joe(ess) Public are going to be plugging their chargers in, I think there may well be a good case for having these socket outlets RCD protected.

 

[Geordie Spark]

Also, with the proliferation of all these mobile devices that require charging; in pubs and other public places, where Joe(ess) Public are going to be plugging their chargers in, I think there may well be a good case for having these socket outlets RCD protected.

No need for all the hassle & expense of RCDs ........ just stuff some of these “Safety Socket Covers” in.

 

[Silly Sausage]

No need for all the hassle & expense of RCDs ........ just stuff some of these “Safety Socket Covers” in.

Hahahahahaa.....Where does Tony go boozing...

 

[Geordie Spark]

Hahahahahaa.....Where does Tony go boozing...

Anywhere within staggering distance of home.

 

[tidyboiler]

Anywhere within staggering distance of home.

Reminds me of someone..............:26:

 

[Geordie Spark]

Reminds me of someone..............:26:

Yes pet.