Socket not working anymore.

[RDB85]

So last night I noticed that the Socket behind the TV was not working. Plugged in my Kewtech plug tester and nothing. So turned off the MCB for the downstairs sockets. Undone the Socket and its been spurred using new colours from the 13A FCU. Changed the 13A fuse in the FCU, checked the cables and nothing seems out of the ordinary.

There is a socket below that which is wired in Old Colours, which has been there forever. I am just wondering if there is an issue with the FCU, or the wiring itself.

Screwed it all back and then turned the MCB back on. Our house is currently wired in Old Colours, with a Square D CCU. Anyway plugged my socket tester in and again nothing. Would anyone have any ideas what it could be?

Is there any test equipment I could buy to allow me to do some testing, other than a Test Metre as i don't have a lot of money at the moment.

 

[RDB85]

OP you could try looking at the YouTube videos on Testing etc, the guy I sent you a video of is very good, there are many equally good presenters in there, worth a look if you are really interested, give it a bash.

Thanks Pete. I’ve seen a few of Chris’s videos before. They are really good. I will have a look at them.

 

[Pete999]

I’ve got the regs and an OSG. Where would you get GN3 from?

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I’ve got the regs and an OSG. Where would you get GN3 from?

The IET if you google it and get the publication number WH Smiths or any good bookshop will order it for you.

IET Guidance Note 3: Inspection & Testing (8th Edition)

This publication is now out of print - it has been superseded with the BS7671:2018+A2:2022 Amendment Two

www.wiringregulations.net

 

[RDB85]

So I spoke to my tutor yesterday and luckily they went through safe isolation and then how to test a 3 phase distribution board. I have seen this kit on ebay: Socket And See SP200 proving unit And Socket & See Voltage Tester VIP Pro | eBay - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Socket-And-See-SP200-proving-unit-And-Socket-See-Voltage-Tester-VIP-Pro/293104145650?hash=item443e5e54f2:g:JIEAAOSwKotc69r5

Would that be okay as it seems to be a good price, but I have never heard of the brand. Or shall I just look at a Megger?

Megger:

Megger Safe Isolation Kit

Megger Safe Isolation Kit The Megger TPT420 and MPU690 Voltage Detection Kit is ideal for proving that an installation is dead before safe isolation procedures. Megger TPT420 AC/DC Voltage Tester The Megger TPT420 Two-Pole Voltage Tester can measure AC voltage between 12 to 1000 V and DC voltage...

www.test-meter.co.uk

 

[Pete999]

So I spoke to my tutor yesterday and luckily they went through safe isolation and then how to test a 3 phase distribution board. I have seen this kit on ebay: Socket And See SP200 proving unit And Socket & See Voltage Tester VIP Pro | eBay - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Socket-And-See-SP200-proving-unit-And-Socket-See-Voltage-Tester-VIP-Pro/293104145650?hash=item443e5e54f2:g:JIEAAOSwKotc69r5

Would that be okay as it seems to be a good price, but I have never heard of the brand. Or shall I just look at a Megger?

Megger:

Megger Safe Isolation Kit

Megger Safe Isolation Kit The Megger TPT420 and MPU690 Voltage Detection Kit is ideal for proving that an installation is dead before safe isolation procedures. Megger TPT420 AC/DC Voltage Tester The Megger TPT420 Two-Pole Voltage Tester can measure AC voltage between 12 to 1000 V and DC voltage...

www.test-meter.co.uk

Aa long as the kit complies, but Kewtec for me.

 

[Pete999]

Aa long as the kit complies, but Kewtec for me.

Might want to download this publication

BPG No. 2 - Issue 3 (Guidance on the management of electrical safety and safe isolation procedures for low voltage installations) - SELECT - Scotland's Electrical Trade Association

SELECT, Scotland's trade association for the electrical, electronics and communications systems industry.

www.select.org.uk

 

[RDB85]

Just bought an MK FCU. I’ve now safe isolated the circuit. I’ve split it so I have the circuit for the outside light. Which is to the right and then a circuit coming from the top. Old colours are from the socket below and the new colours are from the spurred socket.

Looking at the back of the MK socket it had the supply and load. I am looking at how it was wired previously

Load would be the outside light and the Supply would be the sockets.

Would that be correct?

 

[Spoon]

Load would be the outside light and the Supply would be the sockets.

Would that be correct?

Yes.

 

[Spoon]

So the old coloured cables are part of the existing RFC and the new colour is a spur socket from the RFC?

 

[RDB85]

So the old coloured cables are part of the existing RFC and the new colour is a spur socket from the RFC?

New colours are from the addition socket that is spurred from the FCU. Old colours are from the RFC. As all the sockets downstairs are on a RFC. Which is then has a feed from that socket to the FCU.

 

[RDB85]

Socket on the bottom is on a RFC. Which is in old colours. It then has a spur to the FCU above in old colours. There is then flex for the light in old colours in the FCU. Then the final socket is then spurred from the FCU in new colours.

Good news is the outside light works.

 

[RDB85]

So tried again, bought a new lamp for the outside light. Wired the spur so that the Load Side is the Light and the Supply is the sockets. Tested the socket under the bracket. Still not working with the Socket Tester. Tried the FCU with the new lamp. Nothing.

I then looked at the wiring on the RFC, it seems that one of the live (red) is quite short. It reaches into the socket but barely, so I have got a crimping tool, some blue crimps and some 2.5mm2 T&E. So I am going to try and extend any short cables. Although the socket tester has come back all green lights, showing no faults.

 

[DPG]

I personally think you should get a spark to check this out to be on the safe side. I'm sure he wouldn't mind going through what he is doing once he knows your a trainee.

 

[pirate]

My socket tester has 3 lights, but 2 greens is an ok...

 

[telectrix]

My socket tester has 3 lights, but 2 greens is an ok...

green for starboard, red for port. why do you want 2 greens?

 

[Pete999]

green for starboard, red for port. why do you want 2 greens?

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