Socket outlets on lighting circuit

[South Spark]

I'm to install a customer supplied light fitting - it's an Ikea job with a transformer inbuilt into a plug.

As she wants it to replace an existing mains powered spot light fitting I was thinking to put a socket outlet onto the wall using the existing lighting wiring mount the light next to that and plug it in.

On one hand the worst that could happen is that someone could get a ladder out unplug it and plug summat in that would trip the 6A MCB but on the other I'm help feeling it's got to be against regs.

 

[telectrix]

get the customer to take it back and buy the right type of fitting.

 

[Outspoken]

I'm to install a customer supplied light fitting - it's an Ikea job with a transformer inbuilt into a plug.

As she wants it to replace an existing mains powered spot light fitting I was thinking to put a socket outlet onto the wall using the existing lighting wiring mount the light next to that and plug it in.

On one hand the worst that could happen is that someone could get a ladder out unplug it and plug summat in that would trip the 6A MCB but on the other I'm help feeling it's got to be against regs.

This springs to mind...

 

[telectrix]

and this.....

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This springs to mind...

i always said tonto was a crow indian, not an apache.

 

[South Spark]

Steady on .. just trying to come up with a solution.

 

[Adam W]

By the sound of it that would look awful - the idea is you're supposed to be able to see the light fitting and not the wiring, never mind a socket with a wall wart plugged into it.
Then of course there's always the possibility of the customer plugging the vacuum cleaner in there, as usual.

 

[South Spark]

Aesthetics and amusing photos of cowboys aside - is it against the regs?

 

[Fin170]

Get the specs off the transformer then buy a proper one to replace it

Or sling the lamps and tranny and exchange for leds & driver (if applicable)

Option three is to go back to ikea and tell them to stop selling such crap

 

[Adam W]

Is the customer going to be able to unplug the light and plug the vacuum cleaner in?
You could fuse it down to 3A but I still think putting a 13A socket on a lighting circuit is asking for trouble.

 

[eddielarge]

I might have read this wrong , but if you want to surface mount why cant you cut plug and put on a 5amp plug top and install 5amp socket, it will still look bad but no chances of someone plugging into it

 

[Adam W]

I might have read this wrong , but if you want to surface mount why cant you cut plug and put on a 5amp plug top and install 5amp socket, it will still look bad but no chances of someone plugging into it

The transformer is a 'wall wart' type, with the transformer built into the 13A plug.

 

[South Spark]

The plug is the transformer! It's a permanent wall mounted fitting but with a cord and permanent moulded plug/transformer.

If I cut the plug off then I'll have to find an identical transformer and wire a junction box next to it - hardly any prettier.

It was a regs question really

 

[telectrix]

if you label the socket " lighting only", i suppose you might just get away with it. i remember once being called out to a nearly new install where the sparks had fitted 3 1363 sockets on the lighting for stand-alone table lamps, on a dimmer, customer couldn't understand why the hoover ran slow and the lights dimmed.

 

[Robotstar5]

Can you extend the cable between lamp and transformer so it can be plugged into a "proper" S/O?

 

[Marvo]

What kind of light fitting is it? If it has a transformer/plug as you describe I'm guessing it might be portable. Can you post a link to an image?