Sockets in bathrooms

[telectrix]

every landing that you walk away from is good.

 

[LastManOnline]

I don't understand what you would want a 1363 socket in a bathroom for?

Just seen this thread and thought I would add my t'pennyworth, French regulations say no electrical appliance/socket within Volume 0 & 1 which are the area's encompassing the water and bath, or Volume 2 which extends 600mm beyond that area, however showers are treated slightly differently in that Volume 1 extends 1200mm beyond the shower head unless completely enclosed in which case the inside of the enclosure is Volume 1 and Volume 2 is 600mm beyond this, it then gets a bit complicated where the height of all Volume's are 2250 from the water level in a bath, but 2250mm from finished floor level in a shower room, it is normal practice for washing machine's etc to be located in a Shower/Bathroom all supplied from outside the Volume's as above, but all RCD protected as Regulation requirements to any socket, pull cords for lights and extracts are unusual, normally a standard switch is used.

You do wonder! If the French, Italians, Spanish, Germans, Americans, New Zealanders, Australians (to mention just a few) manage to teach their children to behave responsibly with socket outlets in a wet room, could we not do the same here in The British Isles?

 

[pc1966]

You do wonder! If the French, Italians, Spanish, Germans, Americans, New Zealanders, Australians (to mention just a few) manage to teach their children to behave responsibly with socket outlets in a wet room, could we not do the same here in The British Isles?

Err, look at what we have voted for recently?

 

[LastManOnline]

Err, look at what we have voted for recently?

Bathroom's are borderless?

 

[pc1966]

Bathroom's are borderless?

Excellent! We just build a big bathroom at the border in Ireland and trade problems solved, along with any travellers needing relief!

Where is my £10M consultancy payment?

 

[LastManOnline]

Excellent! We just build a big bathroom at the border in Ireland and trade problems solved, along with any travellers needing relief!

Where is my £10M consultancy payment?

On the way ?. But seriously. Sockets in a bathroom are not dangerous providing they are used in the same responsible way all other electrical accessories are. I come from a country with similar regs, as you but when I see 90% of the world successfully using this sockets successfully (and conveniently) in bathrooms I, m incli Ed to say.. "hold on a second, mayby they are on to something here". Would, nt you agree?

 

[pc1966]

Personally I really don't like the idea, having (sadly) enough friends who are muppets when it comes to electrical safety, but some relaxation and adequately isolated products to have USB charge ports would probably avoid a large number of issues with power in bathrooms.

Stuff like hair driers on FCUs don't really worry me, as they can have a flex length & position that avoids bath-use muppetery.

 

[LastManOnline]

Personally I really don't like the idea, having (sadly) enough friends who are muppets when it comes to electrical safety, but some relaxation and adequately isolated products to have USB charge ports would probably avoid a large number of issues with power in bathrooms.

Stuff like hair driers on FCUs don't really worry me, as they can have a flex length & position that avoids bath-use muppetery.

Agreed. I mean in reality you can't legislate for irresponsible behaviour. But when you think about it, millions of us travel abroad every year and don't give a, second thought about using the available electrical accessories in bathrooms. Why not do the same at home?

 

[Mike Johnson]

If the socket is protected with an RCD or better an RCBO why not, not every one is a muppet, but that still doesn't prevent someone taking an extension lead into the bathroom that is not protected.

 

[Dartlec]

With the level of bodgery I often come across I'm surprised I've not seen an ip rated socket fitted in a bathroom yet....never say never.

 

[nicebutdim]

With the level of bodgery I often come across I'm surprised I've not seen an ip rated socket fitted in a bathroom yet....never say never.

Bound to be a video on youtube that fits the bill.

 

[LastManOnline]

If the socket is protected with an RCD or better an RCBO why not we are not all muppets.

Yes. It's a mindset problem again, is, nt it?. I have no doubt in my own that its just a question of time before it changes. One of the main problems is that the socket in the bathroom has been presented as inherently dangerous when it's nothing of the sort. I find it a little ironic that we have no hesitation of stepping under an electric shower, naked, water flowing under our feet and we dont bat an eyelid
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I would not even fit a light switch in a bathroom let alone a socket.

But you are fine standing under an electric shower?
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If the socket is protected with an RCD or better an RCBO why not, not every one is a muppet, but that still doesn't prevent someone taking an extension lead into the bathroom that is not protected.

Mike by the word "volume" do you mean area?

 

[Dartlec]

Bound to be a video on youtube that fits the bill.

Talk of the devil - already been in Codebreakers

Code 2 apparently... Though the colour scheme may be a Code 1.

Looking further, there's a disabled seat in the shower, so this may have been put in to allow an elderly person to receive 'personal care' from a carer. May actually be safer than an extension lead from the hallway - or would be if it wasn't a BG cheapy with clips that will break in 6 months...

 

[Mike Johnson]

Mike by the word "volume" do you mean area?

Don't think I mentioned either.

 

[LastManOnline]

Don't think I mentioned either.

See your post 41.volume mentioned 6 times