Solar PV Installtion under the Green Deal - How do I comply?

[Worcester]

OK, I'm confused. Just getting our PAS2030 signed off as we'ver got a PV install to do under the GreenDeal, however any ideas how I comply with the headline MCS requirement:

MCS 001 Installer Certification Scheme Requirements Issue 2.3

3. DEFINITIONS
Customer
The end-user for whom the microgeneration installation will be carried out. In consumer contracts this may be the householder or property owner (e.g. a social or private landlord).

APPENDIX A
8.
Contracts and customer requirements
A contract for the sale and installation of a system shall be entered into only between an MCS certified Company, which is certified for the technology type (s) in the contract, and a Customer.

This is the first one that includes any Microgeneration that the GDP has done as well - or do they have to get MCS certified also and we are his sub-contractor


ALso ... does the GDA, GDAO, GDP all have to be registered with RECC ???!!! ***!!! ???

 

[TedM]

It's probably too early in the morning - but are you saying that under the Green Deal you think the customer is someone other than the end-user? Who signs the contract? Is it the GDP?

 

[Worcester]

The GDP enters into the contract with the consumer, Thde GDP takes their cut and issues a contract to me to install ... I have no 'legal' relationship with the consumer

I've just emailed this to both the GDORB and to MCS:

We have been approached by a Green Deal Provider to supply and Install micro-generation measures – for example Solar PV under a Green Deal Plan financed scheme, Can you please provide some guidance as to how the GDA, GDAO, GDP and GDI can ensure compliane with what appear to be conflicting requirments.

1. Does:
   1. The Green Deal Adviser , or
   2. The Green Deal Assessor Organisation, or
   3. The Green Deal Provider

Need to be registered with RECC or MCS Certified?

1. As a Green Deal Installer, (GDI) How do I comply with MCS 001 Installer Certification Scheme Requirements Issue 2.3:

“3. DEFINITIONS
Customer
The end-user for whom the microgeneration installation will be carried out. In consumer contracts this may be the householder or property owner (e.g. a social or private landlord).

APPENDIX A
1.
Quality Management System
The Company shall be a member of and, when dealing with domestic customers, shall have agreed to comply with a code of practice (consumer code) which is relevant to the scope of business in the microgeneration sector and which is approved by the Trading Standards Institute (TSI) (prior to 1st April 2013, formerly approved by the Office of Fair Trading (OFT)). Where appropriate, the documented management system shall address the requirements of the consumer code.

Note: the only currently available code is RECC.

8.
Contracts and customer requirements
A contract for the sale and installation of a system shall be entered into only between an MCS certified Company, which is certified for the technology type (s) in the contract, and a Customer.”

And the RECC Code says:
“Renewable Energy Consumer Code
For supplying small-scale renewable and low carbon heat or power generating systems to domestic consumers.

2.3 The Microgeneration Certification Scheme
....
Any Renewable Energy Consumer Code member who enters into a contract with a domestic consumer for the sale
and installation of a small-scale heat or power generating system must be certified to the relevant MCS installer
standards.
....
If a Renewable Energy Consumer Code member obtains sales leads from any third party, the member must require that the
third party complies with all the relevant requirements of the Code and the relevant MCS standards. The Renewable Energy
Consumer Code member will be responsible for any non-compliance with the Code by the third party.”

So according to MCS / RECC the GDP needs to be RECC and MCS Certified... ??

 

[TedM]

Is this any different to entering in to a contract with a landlord? The GDP could be regarded as a pseudo-landlord I would guess.

Anyway, I'm sure the MCS will find a way to waffle the problem away.

 

[SRE]

Ask Greg Barker he seems to know! In the Telegraph this week he quoted £4,500 for solar panels. Radio 4 asked DECC to qualify this statement and they said that it wasn't an official statement it was a personal statement. R4 pushed for more information as it must be based on something and DECC eventually came back and said that Greg Barker was referring to pv done under GD where £2,000 was done on a Green Deal Plan - therefore GB must know everything about it - I suggest you give him a call

 

[Worcester]

That's a cynical thx

 

[SRE]

I like to be helpful :rofl::rofl: