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Hi all,

I was changing some sockets over the weekend and noticed that one double socket which was already a spur, had another spur coming off to another double socket. Now I know this is wrong even though it's been this way for the last 20+ years, and can be corrected by putting an FCU before the first double socket. However, this will require making a mess in our newly plastered and decorated lounge which is a minor inconvenience compared to telling the missus about making a mess in our newly plastered and decorated lounge. So as far as I can tell I have one solution; drop the second spur and put a blanking plate on (or even leave the double socket on, just not wired for aesthetics).

I was just wondered whether if anybody knows if you can get an fused double socket (even if one half is a socket and one half is the fuse)? I can't seem to fine one but for me this would solve all my problems.

Cheers,
Paul.
 
not sure about an all in one unit, but you can get a dual backbox allowing you to nstall 2 single way accessories in the space of a double box, so you could replace your existing double with a dual box with an FCU and a single socket (depends on how easy it would be to replace the back box without damaging the wall)
 
Thanks mate. I didn't realise you could get a dual backbox so I'll whip off the socket this week and have a look at how messy it'll be to replace. That will be the next best solution and mean that I can use the same look sockets. It could also hide the ugly bit of wall between the two sockets!

Just for my information I presume if the first spur was 4mm T+E then it would actually be okay as there's no way of overloading either spur? I doubt it is and I also doubt I can actually see enough of the cable to read the sleeve.

Paul.
 
I'm not sure if the cabling is 4mm. I never checked when I took the face plates off. I will check though. Saying this the fuse at the CU (old style fuse board) is 30amp...aren't radials less than this?
 
If the cable is clipped to the wall or buried in a wall behind plaster and it a radial, then 4mm cable can carry 36A so a 30A fuse is ok but if the radial is in 2.5mm then you would use a 16A mcb or in your board a 15A rewireable.

Jay
 
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