Starting up on my own....next steps

[WDMDL]

Having read the news on what is going to be required for Part P scheme membership from July, I'm wondering what to do.

Over the past months I've been getting ready to go it alone. I've been steadily building up my collection of test equipment and tools while getting up to date with the 2382-10 and 2391-10 courses.

I've come from an electrical background, having trained in electrical maintenance (EITB) when I left school, which involved plenty of conduit and pyro work.
At the time, I helped out a spark with some house bashing on weekends.
I'm qualified HNC in Electrical and Electronic Engineering.
My work was design for 2 years, fault finding for 8 years, then installation for 2 years and I've done inspection and testing work for the past 12, though not on installations within the scope of BS7671.

So with that experience, I found the 2391 not too difficult.

My intention was to get set up once I received the results for the 2391, get sufficient work under my belt and apply to one of the schemes (probably NAPIT) in about 6 months time.
Now it seems I'm not going to be able to get in at that point, so if I understand this right, I'm going to need to carry on doing the non-notifiable works for 2 years while working on the 2357, as applications are no longer being accepted for the 2330.

Would I need to do a L2 and L3, or could I just go straight in and do L3 with the underpinning knowledge I have?

Also, I've done a lot of domestic appliance repairs in my time, but if I was to do this as part of my electrical business, I take it I would need a PAT testing qualification as I'd need to carry out those tests and inspections on anything I'd repaired.

Any advice appreciated,

Simon.

 

[B6 7BU]

So with that experience, I found the 2391 not too difficult.

Simon.

If you found that easy,you should consider this

City & Guilds Course: 2391-20
Level 3 Certificate in Design,
Erection and Verification of Electrical Installations
(Previously named City And Guilds 2400)
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[rapier]

Wdmdl, how is this going to affect you in applying for napit if they are changing college courses titles?

 

[SirKit Breaker]

17th edition and 2391 will get you into most if not all schemes, but definitely Elecsa.

Cheers........Howard

 

[whiteasasheet30]

dont bother mate been selfemployed for 5 years now total rubbish builders bump you they go bust the courts do nothing to stop it and you cant get big jobs with having big turn overs. plus you have to wait 60 to 90 days to be paid its total ****e you best try get on a job with lots of hours steady money cos its hard to get what you would for a firm starting out

 

[tonys]

dont bother mate been selfemployed for 5 years now total rubbish builders bump you they go bust the courts do nothing to stop it and you cant get big jobs with having big turn overs. plus you have to wait 60 to 90 days to be paid its total ****e you best try get on a job with lots of hours steady money cos its hard to get what you would for a firm starting out

Its a rock and a hard place mate, the "lots of hours jobs" are gone, the agencies are taking the extras.

 

[whiteasasheet30]

theres still a few about the agencies are taking the ---- with the rates think am off on to a ship or an just gonna go cable pulling the lads are getting a grand a week pulling cables for 7 days no think or brains involved its a complete joke at the minute you need 5 grands worth of courses ipfa plasa asbestos confined spaces etc for a 10 a hour they can shuvit up there --- for me sparks trade is gone

 

[tonys]

Tell me about it, I woke up this morning and did not go in, Ive had enough as well, but up to now thought just get on with it and go through the motions for a living. But today I turned, if I'm going to work for pennies, then I'm not going to work my bulls off like I have been doing.

 

[whiteasasheet30]

comes to something when you cant get a perm job as a spark the goverment are now pushing for poeople to go selfemployed to get them off the dole but you cant get a buisness overdaft accounent etc you have to use your home or something as a guarante and when it goes ---- up your house goes the lot the goverment dont care its all political

 

[tonys]

I never knew there was that many people trying to get into this game until I started posting regular on this forum. Shocking to say the least!

 

[whiteasasheet30]

everybody thinks its a sure job gold mine if only they knew the true theyd quit tomorrow been a spark since leaving school and its getting worse its like 10 months or so work then the rest unpaid no good for a careera we are under paid now and expected to work harded. i dont mind graft but i refuse to entertain rewires now im hopeing it changes over the next year or two or its getting binned and il buy a taxi lol