SWA Cable - Identification

[Kibo_769]

Hi All,

I bought a 6mm SWA cable from CEF and realised the external diameter is 15.1mm however on the website it says the external diameter is 16.6mm? Have I been given an incorrect cable size? They are no markings on the armoured cable to state the size.

I also purchased a 2.5mm SWA cable and the external diameter is 12.9mm and the product spec on the website states 14.1mm.

I wanted to post this just to get some feedback as I will be getting a trench dug up and wouldn't want to rip the cables apart once installed.

Any advice will be appreciated.

Thanks
Kibz.

 

[Taylortwocities]

How many cores in your cable.

 

[DefyG]

Are you sure its the same product? PVC cables will be larger diameter than xlpe ones.

 

[ipf]

70 degree thermoplastic or 90 degree thermosetting?
They're a different make up of cable.

 

[brianmoooore]

SWA cables with the same size and number of conductors can vary considerably in size, depending on the shape of the individual insulated conductors (not all are round), and how they are packaged, sometimes with filler cords.
Probably a different make from the one on the website.
I've often found that the correct gland for a particular SWA is not any of the ones listed on the packet.

 

[MJPD29]

It's probably just a different brand or different plastic used. Although staff at my local cef are generally idiots and rarely stay more than a few weeks but I'd like to hope they can read a label with cable size correctly.

 

[Kibo_769]

How many cores in your cable.

3 core cable

 

[Kibo_769]

70 degree thermoplastic or 90 degree thermosetting?
They're a different make up of cable.

I'll need to check in the morning and confirm. Why are the cables never marked on the armour?

 

[MJPD29]

I'll need to check in the morning and confirm. Why are the cables never marked on the armour?

Usually marked on the black sheath

 

[Kibo_769]

It's probably just a different brand or different plastic used. Although staff at my local cef are generally idiots and rarely stay more than a few weeks but I'd like to hope they can read a label with cable size correctly.

I may pop in store to check tomorrow with them as my veneer gauge confirms the sizes as being different

 

[brianmoooore]

Don't forget that it's 6mm square for each conductor (the total cross sectional area of all the strands in each conductor added together), not the diameter of the conductor.

 

[Kibo_769]

Are you sure its the same product? PVC cables will be larger diameter than xlpe ones.

I can confirm they are 6mm 3 core SWA XLPE cables as listed on their website.

 

[Kibo_769]

Don't forget that it's 6mm square for each conductor (the total cross sectional area of all the strands in each conductor added together), not the diameter of the conductor.

Thanks yes I understand that I actually curbside of the cable and it doesn't look like 6mm in diameter for the line and neutral condictors

 

[Kibo_769]

Don't forget that it's 6mm square for each conductor (the total cross sectional area of all the strands in each conductor added together), not the diameter of the conductor.

 

[Kibo_769]

I can confirm they are 6mm 3 core SWA XLPE cables as listed on their website.

 

[brianmoooore]

Each of the individual copper wire should be 1.05mm in diameter for 6mm cable.

 

[ipf]

Swa I use has size and number of cores stamped on external insulation, along with bs number and voltage rating.
3x6, in your case.

What make is the cable?

 

[snowhead]

All XLPE.
3 x 6mm Doncaster is 14.9mm o.d
3 x 6mm Eland and Batt are 16.6mm o.d
3x 6mm Cleveland is 15.14 o.d

3 x 10mm is around 19mm

There's nothing close enough in 3 core for it to not be 6mm

 

[Kibo_769]

Swa I use has size and number of cores stamped on external insulation, along with bs number and voltage rating.
3x6, in your case.

What make is the cable?

Hi ipf,
I have checked this morning and have gone through the cable indents.

I can confirm that the cable is badged as follows:

Basec Electrical Cable 600/1000V, BS 5467 ATOM 3 x 6mm

The writing is so small that you can barely read it.
The best way is to run you r finger tips and feel the indents of the label and you will need a light to flash onto the cable where I saw the number/sizing.

Thanks for the help - The cable size is correct - saves me a trip to CEF.

Cheers
Kibz

 

[Kibo_769]

All XLPE.
3 x 6mm Doncaster is 14.9mm o.d
3 x 6mm Eland and Batt are 16.6mm o.d
3x 6mm Cleveland is 15.14 o.d

3 x 10mm is around 19mm

There's nothing close enough in 3 core for it to not be 6mm

Hi K,
Thanks for the tip - I checked this morning to find the cable is a 3 x 6mm2 cable labelled as Basec Electrical Cable 600/1000V BS5467 / Atom 3 X 6mm2
cheers

 

[Kibo_769]

All XLPE.
3 x 6mm Doncaster is 14.9mm o.d
3 x 6mm Eland and Batt are 16.6mm o.d
3x 6mm Cleveland is 15.14 o.d

3 x 10mm is around 19mm

There's nothing close enough in 3 core for it to not be 6mm

Basec Electrical Cable 600/1000V, BS 5467 ATOM 3 x 6mm

The writing is so small that you can barely read it.
The best way is to run you r finger tips and feel the indents of the label and you will need a light to flash onto the cable where I saw the number/sizing.

 

[Kibo_769]

Swa I use has size and number of cores stamped on external insulation, along with bs number and voltage rating.
3x6, in your case.

What make is the cable?

Basec Electrical Cable 600/1000V, BS 5467 ATOM 3 x 6mm

 

[Vortigern]

Time to get your micrometer out then? Strange but a few young people I have shown this have never heard of it on their course. I would have thought that was basic skills.

 

[Kibo_769]

Swa I use has size and number of cores stamped on external insulation, along with bs number and voltage rating.
3x6, in your case.

What make is the cable?

Basec Electrical Cable 600/1000V, BS 5467 ATOM 3 x 6mm

found the stamp of the cable size thanks

 

[Kibo_769]

Time to get your micrometer out then? Strange but a few young people I have shown this have never heard of it on their course. I would have thought that was basic skills.

Thanks Vortigem,
That's how I calculated the cable diameter with the use of a digital Veneer scale

 

[Vortigern]

@Kibo_769 if you mean vernier gauge, not the same thing or as accurate. From what you said I judged that you measured the whole set of seven cables together whereas you would only measure one and multiply by 7 the resultant calculation of the first of the 7?

 

[Kibo_769]

@Kibo_769 if you mean vernier gauge, not the same thing or as accurate. From what you said I judged that you measured the whole set of seven cables together whereas you would only measure one and multiply by 7 the resultant calculation of the first of the 7?

I tried each strand and the complete diameter using the vernier gauge - but wasnt sure at the time - thanks again

 

[timbobelfast]

Certainly looks like 6mm XLPE. Try a 6mm black bootlace on the conductors.......

Recently received some Turkish 4C 1.5mm XLPE SWA, needless to say it got a good once over before the delivery driver got my 'signature' on his delivery docket!!

 

[MJPD29]

Certainly looks like 6mm XLPE. Try a 6mm black bootlace on the conductors.......

Recently received some Turkish 4C 1.5mm XLPE SWA, needless to say it got a good once over before the delivery driver got my 'signature' on his delivery docket!!

I see your from Belfast, did you get it in cef craigavon or belfast by any chance?? Seems its all they sell now

 

[timbobelfast]

I see your from Belfast, did you get it in cef craigavon or belfast by any chance?? Seems its all they sell now

I'll not name names lol! There is three letters in the name, but not C, E or F.

First letter is K....

I've no problems with where the cable is made, as long as it is up to the job.

Turkey have a market now for recycling old rigs and ships, so guess there is plenty of copper around.

 

[MJPD29]

I'll not name names lol! There is three letters in the name, but not C, E or F.

First letter is K....

I've no problems with where the cable is made, as long as it is up to the job.

Turkey have a market now for recycling old rigs and ships, so guess there is plenty of copper around.

Not a place i go often, bit too out of the way for way me. I was suspicious of it originally but have to say do far so good for the kablo

 

[timbobelfast]

Yeah, force of habit checking deliveries now. Received some 5 Pair screened, turned out to be non-armoured! Not amused when discovered as it had all been clipped in!