SWA CLEATS IN WOODEN GARDEN SHED

[ELECNEWT]

Is there any requirement or logic to using fire-retardant cable cleats for SWA inside a wooden shed?

There will be a 2 metre vertical run and a 3 metre horizontal run of 4mm 3 core SWA.

 

[Cid]

Yes. For what it costs its best to do the job correctly first time.

 

[andyb]

Cid's probly right but personally I don't see the point.
It's a wooden shed, if it's on fire then I see no benefit in having fire retardent clips whatsoever. There will be no one alive in it and no one entering.
If the wall which the swa is on is hot enough to melt pvc cleats, then trust me, there is no wall.

 

[Dustydazzler]

Bottom line is , the regs require fire proof fixings to prevent collapse.
As crazy as it seems to fit fire proof fixings to a wooden shed which would just go up like a tinder , just use metal to tick the box.
A bit of bandy will do the job.

 

[telectrix]

use wooden clips. they only fail when the wooden structure fails. sorted.

 

[KEV 1 N]

use wooden clips. they only fail when the wooden structure fails. sorted.

That “wooden” work!!

 

[suffolkspark]

Are firefighters going to enter your shed when its on fire and get entangled? No. Just clip it.

 

[KEV 1 N]

Are firefighters going to enter your shed when its on fire and get entangled? No. Just clip it.

These guys might.........

 

[MJPD29]

No need for fire retardant fixings in a wooden shed. Normal clips or cleats will do. Common sense shall prevail.

 

[peterhyper]

We can fix a consumer unit to wood with the rear entry open for cables to enter, and the massive entry hole doesn't have to be sealed, but some people really think you can't use cleats in a wooden shed as it could be a fire risk. Not sure how many firemen would be going inside a burning shed to save the lawnmower.

 

[DefyG]

Is there any requirement or logic to using fire-retardant cable cleats for SWA inside a wooden shed?

Is it a dwelling? No, so probably not in the same way that plastic/combustible cu's are still permitted in sheds/outbuildings.

 

[ipf]

Just don't use it as a job example for an assessssssssment......

 

[Deleted member 9648]

The regulations simply state that wiring systems shall be constructed to prevent premature collapse in the event of fire, there is no mention of type of installation....shed....domestic....commercial....industrial. Nor does it say common sense can be applied,it's a blanket requirement no matter how daft it might seem. Hence the disagrees to some of the above posts. If you ignore the requirement it's a departure, your call if you want to justify it on your EIC.

 

[suffolkspark]

Premature collapse is the key..... The shed will be up and gone in minutes so normal clips will be just fine

 

[MJPD29]

The regulations simply state that wiring systems shall be constructed to prevent premature collapse in the event of fire, there is no mention of type of installation....shed....domestic....commercial....industrial. Nor does it say common sense can be applied,it's a blanket requirement no matter how daft it might seem. Hence the disagrees to some of the above posts. If you ignore the requirement it's a departure, your call if you want to justify it on your EIC.

Yeah I can justify it it's absolutely pointless