They are many teachers at college who are very knowledgable but cannot teach!

Students are being failed / disadvantaged by such people. What are your thoughts on this matter?
 
school is to get a paper and a bit of theory, in mine i learned mostly how to cheat on useless exams for useless subjects.
started learning things when i got my first job after college.
 
This post is NOT directed at the OP, no offence is meant. I am just generalising. There are many ways of teaching and there are many ways of learning, if your way of learning doesn't click with your tutors way of teaching then it does make life hard work. A HND is not meant to be easy, it relies on you doing a lot of work on your own, you can't just sit back and expect your tutors to hand it to you on a plate. If you are confused or stuck at any point your tutor will talk you through it so you can get back on track. All you've got to do is ask.
 
Most of them were ok, but there was a small number who simply didn't have the natural teaching characteristics.
Forgive the tone of the question but it's the only way I can think of to put it. You know what "natural teaching characteristics" are how exactly?
 
I am at Tameside at the moment.

At HND level agree there is a lot of the learning stuff that you do it yourself.

My argument is that I've seen some teachers don't have a proper structure or notes of teaching of that particular subject.

Some of them just using google as they go compared to past lessons where the teacher has a set of teaching notes and examples rather than just randomly using google and many sites which sometimes makes things more complicated and confiding for students that are new to that subject.

My debate is that what's more important in a teacher, knowledge or quality of teaching?
 
My debate is that what's more important in a teacher, knowledge or quality of teaching?
Surely in an ideal world the 2 should go hand in hand? There's a lecturer at my local college who I won't name, his knowledge is vast, what he doesn't know probably isn't worth knowing. He is one of the most boring people I have ever met though. His lessons are a yawnfest.
One of his colleagues also has a vast amount of knowledge but he's as mad as a box of cats, you get a laugh in his lessons so you're enjoying yourself when you're in there. Lecturer B is a lot more popular than lecturer A.
 
Surely in an ideal world the 2 should go hand in hand? There's a lecturer at my local college who I won't name, his knowledge is vast, what he doesn't know probably isn't worth knowing. He is one of the most boring people I have ever met though. His lessons are a yawnfest.
One of his colleagues also has a vast amount of knowledge but he's as mad as a box of cats, you get a laugh in his lessons so you're enjoying yourself when you're in there. Lecturer B is a lot more popular than lecturer A.
i had that but in my case plumbing lecturer was b and electrical a
 
A very good friend of mine is dyslexic and he's one of the cleverest blokes I've ever met (that means he's really clever, not that all the rest are really thick lol) He spent all his life through school being told he was lazy or stupid, this was before it was a recognised condition
 
school is to get a paper and a bit of theory, in mine i learned mostly how to cheat on useless exams for useless subjects.
started learning things when i got my first job after college.



A perfect lesson in how to make yourself look a complete chump!! lol!!
 
My two pence worth.....
I think teaching is a skill and some are better at it than others.
If it's technical like various branches of electrical theory you might expect the teacher/lecturer to have a pretty sound knowledge of their subject and its applications.

I had a mixture of both........and the spectrum between.

Numerical methods - pretty lady but never been out of academia.
Electrical machine theory - a guy who had actually designed electrical machines.
Archie McLean. He could teach. More importantly, he made me learn. And that's an important distinction.
 
One of the best teachers I ever had was my 4th year junior school teacher Stan Coates. He was a hard taskmaster but he got results out of all of his pupils. He used to play sax on a lunchtime and when he found out I was trying to play guitar he brought one of his mates in on lunchtimes to give me a few lessons.
Many years later I did a job at his house and we talked for ages, even though he told me to call him by his first name I couldn't bring myself to call him anything other than Mr Coates.
I was sad when he died (nb the 2 events were not connected)
 
I suspect it's a vocation, plus having the ability to grip the students (NO innuendo implied!) with interest.
 
One of the best teachers I ever had was my 4th year junior school teacher Stan Coates. He was a hard taskmaster but he got results out of all of his pupils. He used to play sax on a lunchtime and when he found out I was trying to play guitar he brought one of his mates in on lunchtimes to give me a few lessons.
Many years later I did a job at his house and we talked for ages, even though he told me to call him by his first name I couldn't bring myself to call him anything other than Mr Coates.
I was sad when he died (nb the 2 events were not connected)

It's teachers like these we more need in colleges who go the extra mile for their students.
 
I had a brilliant tutor at college, nothing was too much trouble for him to explain and the practical demonstrations usually had us all involved in some way or another. He always made our lessons interesting and near to going home time he would ask us a question related to what we had just covered. We would all go home and read up for hours (Yes read books there was no JFGI then ) on what he'd asked us which without us knowing took the lesson a step further.
I met him years later and thanked him for the way he'd mentored me and the easy way he'd instilled knowledge into me.
I'll never forget his reply, he said " I've never considered myself gifted as a teacher so the best I could do was to encourage you all to learn and point you in the right direction."
What he did was make us want to know the science and the maths so we'd find extra stuff out for ourselves.
It worked for me
 

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