Testing domestic work

[longers30]

I was just wondering if someone could confirm the situation with issuing any kind of test certificate for electrical work carried out. I was under the impression that you had to be registered with one of the 5 schemes eg NICEIC, napit but a colleague of mine told me that is not the case and I would be able to complete my own. I am qualified to cg 2391 to carry out the testing just wanted to know if I am permitted to issue a certificate.

 

[Farmelectrics]

You would need to be part p and registered with one of the mobs or that's my understanding

 

[i=p/u]

Course you are, if its accepted by client snd building control is another thing ...

 

[trev]

The legal element is that some bits of domestic electrical work are notifiable, to find out what is and is not go to the planning portal and download Approved Document P. In order to notify work to building control you can -
A Join a scam eg NICEIC, NAPIT, Elecsa etc
B Pay an exorbitant fee to LABC every time you want to notify a job.
There is an option C but that's being very naughty and will get you a stern telling off if ever anyone can be bothered to do it which is unlikely. Also, option C won't score you any brownie points with most of the guys on here who (rightly) do it by the book and could actually get you tarred with the cowboy brush in your area if it were ever to come out.
Obviously, option A is the way forward. How to join a scam has been done to death on here and continues to be, check out the various organisation's web sites for info on what they want from you in order to sign you up.
Hope that helps.

 

[longers30]

So if the work was not notifiable could I issue a minor works certificate or would I need to be registered on one the schemes still?

 

[trev]

No! If the work is not notifiable that's the end of it, you cert it using EIC or MWC as appropriate. Just because it's on an EIC does not automatically mean it's notifiable.

 

[longers30]

Thanks for helping clear that up guys much appreciated.

 

[telectrix]

and it's also of note that you don't have to be a part pee scam member to carry out EICRs.

 

[longers30]

So I am fine to issue a MWC, EIC, or EICR as long as the work is not notifiable? Just want to make sure I'm doing things by the book!

 

[Des 56]

So I am fine to issue a MWC, EIC, or EICR as long as the work is not notifiable? Just want to make sure I'm doing things by the book!

The regs say you issue these certificates for all your work irrelavent whether its Labc notifiable or not,that is part and parcel of being a spark

The notifiable work issue is Building regulations procedure and nothing to do with certificates

You can certify any work you chose,whether it is accepted by your client is another matter
This is where the scams come in,they run schemes that permits building regs notifiable work to be self certificated instead of informing the council building control guy beforehand

 

[oldtimer]

Just move to Scotland no Part P!sh up here yea can take ma freedom but al never sign up tae Part P!sh

 

[VoltzElectrical]

Does anybody know of anybody who has been successfully prosecuted for not notifying notifiable works? BTW it's the responsibility of the house owner, so stuff scam membership.

 

[oldtimer]

Does anybody care but the trick of the scams is to make you think they are relivent even although the Part P review has hacked it down I think your local council would be happy with a 17th edition CU that replaces a 3036 without the Notification Police having to get involved

 

[davethsparky]

Shhhhhhh! You're not supposed to ask questions like that, the whole con will fall apart.

Our place is to follow like sheep and do whatever the scam operators say we have to do. Independant thought is not allowed.

 

[VoltzElectrical]

I see dumb people.

 

[davethsparky]

Not hard though is it, they're everywhere

 

[VoltzElectrical]

also, I love animals. They're delicious.

 

[LED Lighting]

To clarify (some wont like me saying this)
any "electrican" can issue a certificate part p or not, but only a part p "electrican" can self notify a notifiable job, a non registered "electrican" would have to issue Cerys to building control. A non electrican would just ask building control to test and issue certificate

 

[micknew]

To clarify (some wont like me saying this)
any "electrican" can issue a certificate part p or not, but only a part p "electrican" can self notify a notifiable job, a non registered "electrican" would have to issue Cerys to building control. A non electrican would just ask building control to test and issue certificate

And pay them a fee.

 

[telectrix]

the whole farce just making it more attractive to the customer ( coz. it's 50% cheaper ) to get cowboys and foreigners to do the job.

 

[HandySparks]

the whole farce just making it more attractive to the customer ( coz. it's 50% cheaper ) to get cowboys and foreigners to do the job.

Does that make it 100% cheaper if you get a foreign cowboy to do the job? :cowboy:

 

[BertUK]

I would check with your LABC as mine offers a free register for people with the relevant qualifications ie: 17th + 2391 and a least 2 million liability insurance.you don't have to be scam registered and they send you a unique reference number that you put on all certs you issue,minor works...install certs and eicr,s.this then allows you to do domestic electrical work in your local borough and sign it off.

 

[brucelee]

last time I asked mine 3 year back it was £190 per job wish I lived in rotheram do they alow you to do this for free lol

 

[BertUK]

last time I asked mine 3 year back it was £190 per job wish I lived in rotheram do they alow you to do this for free lol

they do allow it for free...here is a copy of the email I received from them.
Further to our telephone conversation of earlier regarding registration for the (free of charge) Rotherham Building Control Competent Persons list, please find attached the pro forma for you to fill out and return with copies of your relevant qualifications.
As I explained this would only cover you for the Rotherham MBC area, but if you check with the other Local Authorities in the area they may have a similar scheme.
Kind regards,

 

[brucelee]

I will be checking again and if mine( WIGAN COUNCIL ) has changed, which I doubt very much I will be cancelling my scam membership and saving myself a small fortune lol and may even point them in the direction of rotheram councils ( Free of charge registration for local work ) what a good idea that is, then there would be no need for these scams as you could contact each council for the area you wish to work in
Cheers