Testing old 16th edition installation

[eagleeye]

A friend of mine had a refirb, extension and new rewire done back in 2007 before i was registered with the NICEIC. He has never had it tested or passed by building control and because it is coming up to the end of the time to sign off he has asked me if i can test the installation and issue a cert. Is it ok to fill out the 17th edition Electrical installation forms for this or should i just do it on a periodic report

 

[trebor]

Its far too late for an EIC, it will have to a PIR to the 17th edition regs which probably means there are going to be a lot of code 4 defects

 

[Deleted member 9648]

Not sure from your post whether you carried out the work or someone else did,but doing an electrical installation cert on work carried out by others is a definate no-no anyway.

 

[eagleeye]

No sorry I carried out the work with someone else

 

[pevvers]

If you carried out the work then I don't see the problem. But it must be stated that it was designed and constructed in line with the 16th edition...

 

[acat]

I agree with Trebor do a PIR its to late for an EIC now and your agreement with NICEIC is all work to 17th edition. If you do an EIC to 16th your in breach of your agreement and putting your hands up to building control for failing to notify. PIR saves all the possible grief.

Hope that helps


Chris

 

[lewlec]

hi all

if a pir is carried out on the installation you wont be able to notify as you cant part p a pir... maybe you could upgrade to 17th and then issue a eic .

 

[pevvers]

I still believe that you would be able to issue an EIC for the work as it was installed by yourself, but hey ho!

 

[cbw]

I have just done what Gary suggested, finished off several circuits from an incomplete 16th edition rewire, then converted the whole lot to 17th edition, every circuit was legitametly modified to such an extent I was able to issue a EIC.

However as also stated, if you were involved in the initial rewire then buy a split load/17th kit and convert it and issue your certs!

 

[A-Non-eMouse]

what would you guys do, lets just say for arguments sake, if someone 'ahem' rewired their own house before they were nic registered and before the cable colours changed and had a 16th edition board, never put a cert on it cause said person wasn't registered at the time, but were registered now and was to say put a 17th edition board up 'over' the old colours cause they were moving soon and needed an eic. said person was 100% confident their instal would meet 17th criteria apart from old colours. would anyone put a cert on their own house? just out of interest, theoretically speaking, just wondering? not that i know anyone who's done it!

 

[Monkey1984]

what would you guys do, lets just say for arguments sake, if someone 'ahem' rewired their own house before they were nic registered and before the cable colours changed and had a 16th edition board, never put a cert on it cause said person wasn't registered at the time, but were registered now and was to say put a 17th edition board up 'over' the old colours cause they were moving soon and needed an eic. said person was 100% confident their instal would meet 17th criteria apart from old colours. would anyone put a cert on their own house? just out of interest, theoretically speaking, just wondering? not that i know anyone who's done it!

If your putting a 17th edition board in why don't you just do an EIC for that and leave it be.

 

[eagleeye]

Have just done that exact thing on my house. Did a total house refirb on my own house that my partner owns and we both live. NICEIC assessor said it was fine to do that