The Working Away question

[John Matrix]

Hi lads. Just wanted to talk about working away. Today we have been asked how we feel about it. Where I work don’t really work away and I haven’t had to yet. But up until I joined 2 years ago I spent 17 years on and off, on more than off away from home. It has been suggested that we may be layed off if it gets to a point where the local work drys up. But after April next year the squedule is full of local work again, so I’m led to believe. I have kids and a mrs. I’ve got to a point where I don’t want that life anymore and I’m just not interested in it. I’ve had health issues, and one of my kids also has health issues. I need to be home really. Do I have to go if I’m in the books? What are your experiences with similar situations?

 

[ashrow]

Some companies have in place in their contract (if you signed one) where your are/distance expected to work
If you have no contract get some expert advice.
If your employed the rules may be different then if self employed

 

[Pete999]

Hi John
From someone who has worked away from home a lot including overseas which was part of the equation.
I would humbly suggest, that if you have a contract of employment that requires you to work away from home, which no longer suits your personal conditions, but is the only work your company can provide for you, then to be blunt you need to weight the pros and cons equally, it maybe that they could lay you off due to lack of work opportunities, depends on what your contract pf employment says.
I had a young family and went away for a year no leave hard but it paid the bills, it could be that you need to speak to your other half and discuss the pros and cons of working away, I guess it's down to you and your family to weigh up what the important issues are mine and my families at the time was money, to provide safe housing, it made us stronger although I am having some problems with my pension at the moment, talk it over with Her in Doors see what She wants out of life, I she need to speak to someone who has been there done that and got the T shirt many times over, phone number on request, good luck

 

[buzzlightyear]

a company can not make you work away ,you must tell you boss it is no good for you and tell them about you child with health problems they might see it your way .its not like years ago ,a bang on the head and next thing your on a ship going out of port .

 

[Pete999]

a company can not make you work away ,you must tell you boss it is no good for you and tell them about you child with health problems they might see it your way .its not like years ago ,a bang on the head and next thing your on a ship going out of port .

All very well Buzz, depends on what the poster signed up for, if the only work is away from home, then not much choice is there, travel or the Spanish Archer (elbow) sad but it's understandable, can't keep paying someone who wont go where the work is, like I said depend on what was signed up for,

 

[rapparee]

a company can not make you work away ,you must tell you boss it is no good for you and tell them about you child with health problems they might see it your way .its not like years ago ,a bang on the head and next thing your on a ship going out of port .

So they lay him off then, no hard feelings and we'll see you in April.

What's two years redundancy worth.

If there's no work locally what do you expect the firm to do? They're taking on this extra work as a stop gap to keep the boys in work. I've seen it happen lots of times.

 

[buzzlightyear]

What's two years redundancy worth.

your heath and the child's ,I would agree with you ,but if the op not happy then its down to him not his boss .

 

[Baddegg]

If you are on the cards you’ll have a contract even it not written it’ll be assumed, sorry to say but it sounds like you already know the answer mate, especially as they are offering you work.....best of luck to you though it’s not a nice situation to be in especially this time of year

 

[buzzlightyear]

If you are on the cards you’ll have a contract even it not written

wrong ,if you sign a contract then ok ,

 

[Baddegg]

wrong ,if you sign a contract then ok ,

If you don’t sign and work to they contact after a period it becomes assumed anyways...

 

[rapparee]

your heath and the child's ,I would agree with you ,but if the op not happy then its down to him not his boss .

Absolutely everyone has their own priorities, but it's not fair to blame the firm.

I've known guys who have taken jobs at practically cost price over in England when the work has dried up here in Ireland. Just so they could keep their squad of men in work. This wasn't a good thing either, if there is no meat in the profits it's very easy to be making a loss if anything goes wrong.

Some fellas went to England others stayed at home, they were reemployed when the squad came back to Ireland.

 

[John Matrix]

Hi John
From someone who has worked away from home a lot including overseas which was part of the equation.
I would humbly suggest, that if you have a contract of employment that requires you to work away from home, which no longer suits your personal conditions, but is the only work your company can provide for you, then to be blunt you need to weight the pros and cons equally, it maybe that they could lay you off due to lack of work opportunities, depends on what your contract pf employment says.
I had a young family and went away for a year no leave hard but it paid the bills, it could be that you need to speak to your other half and discuss the pros and cons of working away, I guess it's down to you and your family to weigh up what the important issues are mine and my families at the time was money, to provide safe housing, it made us stronger although I am having some problems with my pension at the moment, talk it over with Her in Doors see what She wants out of life, I she need to speak to someone who has been there done that and got the T shirt many times over, phone number on request, good luck

I’ve just check my contract and all it says is ( if asked to work out of town that the room and breakfast And expenses are payed for by the company ) it doesn’t mention having to go. It says if asked. Not you will be expected to go

 

[buzzlightyear]

A contract of employment can be altered only with the agreement of both parties. When any change to a contract of employment is actioned, employers are required to give written notification of the variations within a month of the changes being agreed and put in place. i sometimes work part time in litigation in suits ,lol.

 

[Pete999]

Absolutely everyone has their own priorities, but it's not fair to blame the firm.

I've known guys who have taken jobs at practically cost price over in England when the work has dried up here in Ireland. Just so they could keep their squad of men in work. This wasn't a good thing either, if there is no meat in the profits it's very easy to be making a loss if anything goes wrong.

Some fellas went to England others stayed at home, they were reemployed when the squad came back to Ireland.

If "The firm" specialises in working away from home and you understand the situation, then you can't sudden;y decide you don't like the situation, and that 'sall that's available,what do you expect "the firm" to do? shell out a salary or wage for nil input? come on Mate live in the real world.

 

[John Matrix]

So they lay him off then, no hard feelings and we'll see you in April.

What's two years redundancy worth.

If there's no work locally what do you expect the firm to do? They're taking on this extra work as a stop gap to keep the boys in work. I've seen it happen lots of times.

There is thow. They just implied that if it did ever dry up we could potentially be layed off. I would say this is to give us a gentle nudge to go away
[automerge]1574889005[/automerge]

If "The firm" specialises in working away from home and you understand the situation, then you can't sudden;y decide you don't like the situation, and that 'sall that's available,what do you expect "the firm" to do? shell out a salary or wage for nil input? come on Mate live in the real world.

When I joined I was told working away was very few and far between. I’ve known one job that’s been away since being here. Like I said I did 12 months at a time in London getting the tube to the job. I’ve worked away for over 17 years on and off. I’ve done my time.