To torque or not to torque that is z question

[Dustydazzler]

so I need to add 1 mcb to a rather old existing mem consumers unit

I have managed to source the mcb via ‘cough’ eBay ‘cough’

But it doesn’t have the manufacture spec installation instructions manual for correct torque

Should I..
A , contact mem helpline for further information
B , wing it and guess the required torque
C , just use a normal Phillips screwdriver and let my wrist do the torquing

Thought ?

 

[ipf]

I find all this torque somewhat strange, we never had torque info' or tools pushed onto us back in the day, we just learnt what was about right and I have yet to return to any job because I under or over tightened a cable termination.
Is this just another money spinning exercise by the industry or do we really have masses of professionals making bad terminations?

What do you reckon?
Have termination producers' standards improved?
Have professionals' standards improved?
Have money spinners' standards improved?
I think I know which have got better at their particular job..…….why not have a vote on it?

 

[Tony Reidy]

Still going for the F curve...

Anywhere near the g spot

 

[Midwest]

I find all this torque somewhat strange, we never had torque info' or tools pushed onto us back in the day, we just learnt what was about right and I have yet to return to any job because I under or over tightened a cable termination.
Is this just another money spinning exercise by the industry or do we really have masses of professionals making bad terminations?

I dunno; I got really big musculls, big big guns they are. Surprised by my own strength sometimes. Broke a few terminals overtightening them, and squashing that soft copper coloured stuff as well. And when I've been 'tightening up' all day long ;o))))) (SWD language), I can get a bit limp wristed.

So why not use a torque screwdriver in CU's? After all, there's that many on here, so called 'tool tarts', who buy ridiculous bits of kit, why not add to your toolbox.

Isn't there a manufacturers torque list in the resources section?

 

[Midwest]

I think I know which have got better at their particular job..…….why not have a vote on it?

I just did; went for The Brexit Party.

 

[MJPD29]

Normal screwdriver. Never failed me yet

 

[Midwest]

Normal screwdriver. Never failed me yet

Phillips or Pozidrive? Or just orange juice and vodka with a slice & ice.

 

[Darkwood]

Don't get me wrong I ain't trying to scupper the thread here, I think the question is relevant, well to us older generation... the only torque critical equipment that manufacturers made in my mind was Schneider's power board MCCB where you tightened the plastic head until it snapped off which guaranteed the right torque. Other than that example, I haven't experienced any other equipment electrical specifying torque settings and the industry expecting you to buy torque set equipment.

 

[Pete999]

Don't get me wrong I ain't trying to scupper the thread here, I think the question is relevant, well to us older generation... the only torque critical equipment that manufacturers made in my mind was Schneider's power board MCCB where you tightened the plastic head until it snapped off which guaranteed the right torque. Other than that example, I haven't experienced any other equipment electrical specifying torque settings and the industry expecting you to buy torque set equipment.

For info on that please see London Fire Brigade, Emma Clancy, Certsure, NICEIC and all the other parasites that form our trades information Hub, as well as numerous Screwdriver manufacturers who have grown fat on flogging these torque tools.

 

[MJPD29]

Phillips or Pozidrive? Or just orange juice and vodka with a slice & ice.

It would be a pozidrive

 

[Pretty Mouth]

I find all this torque somewhat strange, we never had torque info' or tools pushed onto us back in the day, we just learnt what was about right and I have yet to return to any job because I under or over tightened a cable termination.
Is this just another money spinning exercise by the industry or do we really have masses of professionals making bad terminations?

I've been advised it's all about liability. Say there's a fire due to a consumer unit you fitted and you don't have a (presumably calibrated) torque screwdriver, then the manufacturer is off the hook and you're on your own.

 

[Midwest]

For info on that please see London Fire Brigade, Emma Clancy, Certsure, NICEIC and all the other parasites that form our trades information Hub, as well as numerous Screwdriver manufacturers who have grown fat on flogging these torque tools.

You are the top of the list of 'tool tarts'; go on buy one, keep it in the cupboard.

 

[Midwest]

It would be a pozidrive

Poor choice, I'd gone for the Russian.

 

[westward10]

Plus/minus driver.

 

[Pete999]

You are the top of the list of 'tool tarts'; go on buy one, keep it in the cupboard.

I had two sets Mate but flogged em

 

[ipf]

I've been advised it's all about liability. Say there's a fire due to a consumer unit you fitted and you don't have a (presumably calibrated) torque screwdriver, then the manufacturer is off the hook and you're on your own.

Might be nothing to do with connection, just a faulty unit.
Might be nothing to do with the driver, wrongly positioned cable.

Sales people haven't been trying to s*** you up, have they?