Tools Robbed! Liverpool

[Electreacle]

Hi, does anyone have any tools or drills for sale? Had all my kit robbed Saturday early hours 2k worth of kit! Drills, testers, tools, took the whole lot! I’m in Liverpool area.

 

[LukeD]

There are quite a few DCMF prisons in the UK and have been since the 1990s.

Except UK Judges/police and wardens dont get "bonuses " for feeding the system like they do in the US . I think one you take a young person into the prison system, you stand a much higher chance of "losing them forever " . The whole issue of crime stems from deep down in society .bad families , missing fathers etc . Its very very sad

 

[mainline]

Except UK Judges/police and wardens dont get "bonuses " for feeding the system like they do in the US . I think one you take a young person into the prison system, you stand a much higher chance of "losing them forever " . The whole issue of crime stems from deep down in society .bad families , missing fathers etc . Its very very sad

Totally agree, which is why I took umbrage when someone says “Holiday camps” they have no idea at all what going to prison can mean for some people.
There is a very high number of suicides in prisons every year, I wonder how many there are in holiday camps ?.

 

[nicebutdim]

While it's certainly the case that many people will find prison oppressive, and that many of these people are far from the stereotypical hardened criminal, these aren't the sort of people who go on wholesale robbing sprees and leave countless tradespeople without the tools needed to earn a living.

The sort of people who take every opportunity that presents itself, in order to enrich themselves at the expence of others, will generally find prison to be little more than a minor inconvenience. If they were forced to earn their keep in prison, with the alternative being 23.5 hour lock up, and provided nothing more than basic sustenance during their stay, they'd be much more inclined to avoid ever going to prison.

 

[littlespark]

You know what should be a crime? Overuse of inverted commas

I have to agree, it's not the police fault.... its the system in general... for all the reasons already given. Soft sentences, no real punishment.
I feel sorry for anyone that's had their tools nicked.....

But a story from when i lived in Dundee. I parked my car overnight near the city centre so i could go on the bevy.
Walked back to pick it up the next day to find a door window smashed. And my old leather jacket that was in the car on the ground a few feet away. A few cassettes were missing from the glovebox. (Yes, it was that long ago!)

What they didn't take.... and what the old leather jacket was covering on the back seat... was my tools, works test kit. Hilti drill, some cable etc etc.

 

[mainline]

While it's certainly the case that many people will find prison oppressive, and that many of these people are far from the stereotypical hardened criminal, these aren't the sort of people who go on wholesale robbing sprees and leave countless tradespeople without the tools needed to earn a living.

The sort of people who take every opportunity that presents itself, in order to enrich themselves at the expence of others, will generally find prison to be little more than a minor inconvenience. If they were forced to earn their keep in prison, with the alternative being 23.5 hour lock up, and provided nothing more than basic sustenance during their stay, they'd be much more inclined to avoid ever going to prison.

I agree that career criminals and organised gangs are a different kettle of fish.
They also end up in the dock with different charges like conspiracy, giving the Judge a much wider sentencing range.

 

[mainline]

I don't agree that prison is like a holiday camp, in fact a prison sentence for some families can have a devastating lifelong consequence.

Without know the circumstances of the thief and why they do what they do, then it's difficult to easily find a solution.

And what do you dislike about those statements, Mike ?

 

[OnlQQker]

I remember years back in the mess hut, a Carpenter was telling a Bricklayer how he kept a Rockweiler in the car for added security.

In which the Bricklayer replied, 'so it can put out fires can it'

 

[Mike Johnson]

And what do you dislike about those statements, Mike ?

Every thing you have said so far about this subject.

 

[mainline]

Every thing you have said so far about this subject.

Everything ? Dislike or disagree ?

These are the statements I made, can you tell me why you Dislike / Disagree


There is a very high number of suicides in prisons every year

There are quite a few DCMF prisons in the UK and have been since the 1990s.

I don't agree with crime of any kind, but there can be victims on both sides.

I agree that career criminals and organised gangs are a different kettle of fish.
They also end up in the dock with different charges like conspiracy, giving the Judge a much wider sentencing range

Without knowing the circumstances of the thief and why they do what they do, then it's difficult to easily find a solution.

Prisons are not like holiday camps.

Those statements are all factual, so I don't see how you can disagree with them.

 

[mainline]

John Major brought in a reform that any Foreign national caught for the second time would be repatriated to their home country, trouble is the do gooders out there fought it down as against human right for asylum seekers, not to say that all scrotes are foreign.

I wonder could you point me to some sort of reference to John Major doing this, as I would be interested in reading about it.
I can find no reference to it via google etc.

 

[westward10]

Back to the point of this thread @Electreacle is asking if anyone has any tools or drills for sale or maybe a donation to him.

 

[7029 dave]

I am shocked watching that vid, so many tools for sale obviously knocked off and they have the bare cheek to sell them.
The police would have a field day if they could be bothered.

 

[Dustydazzler]

I am shocked watching that vid, so many tools for sale obviously knocked off and they have the bare cheek to sell them.
The police would have a field day if they could be bothered.

Police aren't interested and to be fair unless they catch the thief red handed what do we expect them to do

Had a couple bikes nicked from my shed at my old house, reported it that very morning when I noticed the shed door had been ripped open. 2 days later a lady police officer came round to take a brief statement and basically said the chances of seeing the bikes again were effectively zero and to just put a claim in on my home insurance.

 

[Mike Johnson]

I don't know the details, but it seems Boot Fairs are a law unto themselves and the sellers do not have to prove where the items came from, something about buying from Joe down the pub comes to mind.

 

[Dustydazzler]

I don't know the details, but it seems Boot Fairs are a law unto themselves and the sellers do not have to prove where the items came from, something about buying from Joe down the pub comes to mind.

Its all cash no questions asked , the police would be wasting their time trying to prove whats is a legit seconds and what is stolen gear