tray separation or not ???????

[multimick]

i have installed some 4inch tray horizontal around a mains room in factory carrying for the moment a couple of 4mm twin earths ,more will be added later, the cctv and data guys have come along and tywrapped their cat 5 cables to this tray ,it maybe just a temp measure as it is very roughly done at this time ,whats your thoughts on this please .

 

[telectrix]

tell them to comeback and shift it. end of.

 

[Risteard]

T&E in a factory?

 

[suffolkspark]

If its been done rough by a data company its probably perminent

 

[multimick]

its in a mains room whats wrong with that .i have also used it in offices whats wrong with that as well

 

[Dillb]

Get your side cutters out and cut their tie wraps, tell them they need to install their own cable runs.

 

[littlespark]

Polite email to the data company, CC'd to the customer or main contractor explaining the tray was put up for LV power, and there are more cables to go on it. Their data cables need to be removed from the tray.

There's a reason for separation, and you were there first. If there's interference on their network, its their fault for installing so close to your power cables.

 

[PEG]

With respect,it is for the owner of the mains room in that factory,to decide what is cut/removed. They can make this decision,assisted by your input or recommendation,but taking steps to change this before knowing,is foolish.

 

[elsparko]

With respect,it is for the owner of the mains room in that factory,to decide what is cut/removed. They can make this decision,assisted by your input or recommendation,but taking steps to change this before knowing,is foolish.

no it isnt, if youve quoted for supporting cables on 4" tray then that tray is ALL yours once you install it

data guy wants ready fitted 4" tray he can fit it himself or see me outside for a fight

 

[Wes1000]

Get your side cutters out and cut their tie wraps, tell them they need to install their own cable runs.

Why stop there? I’d cut out the cable, rip out the patch panels and start fitting some din rail in the cabinets.
I bet they wouldn’t pinch your tray again.

 

[elsparko]

Why stop there? I’d cut out the cable, rip out the patch panels and start fitting some din rail in the cabinets.
I bet they wouldn’t pinch your tray again.

put dog sheizer inside their shoes at lunchtime

in all honesty, id make the data guys job as difficult as possible now, wait till he fixes it all to the tray properly then tell him NOPE

 

[Nigel]

Just put it in writing to the customer and explain that any issues will be down to them, not you.

Explain that you will need to detail an exception to BS7671 on the EIC and crack on.

I would not get to caught up with it. In reality nothing is going to happen.

 

[littlespark]

Sod being polite.
Find the end of the data cables and swap round any identification labels they may have put on them.

"These are all the wrong cables???"

"No.... They are all the right cables.... but not necessarily in the right order"

 

[telectrix]

short avouple of the daya cables out at one end. then stick a car battery across the other end.

 

[Risteard]

Explain that you will need to detail an exception to BS7671 on the EIC and crack on.

Departures from BS7671 must afford at least the same degree of safety as compliance. It's not there as a means of not complying with the Standard when it suits.