UK/London rewire pricing??

[ppelec100]

Okay so i've got a 3 bedroom house to rewire and i need to give the client a quote.
This will be my first own rewire, but i've done a few with other electricians i've worked with in the past, simple but messy. Just finished my apprenticeship too, so i'm not too bothered about making a killing off of it, i would like to get the job mainly for the experience but at a worthy price.

The house will have
29 socket points (including double/single/spurs)
11 or 12 switches (for lights)
10 basic lighting points (pendant/bulkhead)
9 downlight points
2 wall lights
1 heat and 2 smoke detectors
Ex fan + isolator /
Electric oven supply (switch and outlet connection)
A cable run and coiled up for a shed supply (when the shed is built in the future)
Electric shower supply (isolator and shower connection)
Consumer unit fit + double pole isolator
Bonding gas + water

Note: they are having the walls plastered so i don't need to make good. the fan hole is already drilled out. house is non occupied, but they are having some small works done before/while we rewire.

The price I have come up with is £3800 but I feel as if this is too low..

What would be a good price for all this work to be done?
Also any ideas/formulas on how to calculate the pricing will be much appreciated!
Also do you add a mark up percentage or anything on materials? If so how much?

 

[BruceBanner]

Evening,
Where in London is this?
15 to 20% mark up on materials.
What spec is this, split/rcbo etc?
Not sure we're you are exactly but being London might be a bit low. I'm southwest & if that was rcbo I'd be around that mark minimum.
Understand what you are saying about only just qualified or whatever etc, however it has no relevance, you can do the job or you can ou can't. Price accordingly or you are selling us all down the river.
What your requests for additions, "while your here, could you just", etc, get you variations signed off, they add up quick!
Also when you put your price in don't give a full breakdown on materials, just a general overview on items agreed with client, you give a full breakdown & some ------- will undercut you & nick your spec because they couldn't wok it out for themselves.
Good luck

 

[Micktw68]

At a rough estimate I’d say you're about 40-50% too cheap. Hard to say without looking at spec. , type of dwelling and location. (parking, C.C. Etc etc)

 

[Bob Geldoff1234]

I get it to around £5000 and that's up North so it would be even dearer in London.
Are you able to notify all this work?

 

[Baddegg]

That would be £4500-£4800 ish down here mate so I’d say way to cheap for London.....you’ll need to put a parking ticket a day on that at least ?

 

[ppelec100]

Evening,
Where in London is this?
15 to 20% mark up on materials.
What spec is this, split/rcbo etc?
Not sure we're you are exactly but being London might be a bit low. I'm southwest & if that was rcbo I'd be around that mark minimum.
Understand what you are saying about only just qualified or whatever etc, however it has no relevance, you can do the job or you can ou can't. Price accordingly or you are selling us all down the river.
What your requests for additions, "while your here, could you just", etc, get you variations signed off, they add up quick!
Also when you put your price in don't give a full breakdown on materials, just a general overview on items agreed with client, you give a full breakdown & some ------- will undercut you & nick your spec because they couldn't wok it out for themselves.
Good luck

Hi sorry I should’ve specified that the £3800 is labour only, the materials is coming up to around £750-800. So materials included will be £4600 let’s say. So would you say £800+15/20% on top? The spec will be a split rcd. The client has asked for a basic rewire. I also forgot to mention that the client is a good friend of my cousin. I know them too.
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At a rough estimate I’d say you're about 40-50% too cheap. Hard to say without looking at spec. , type of dwelling and location. (parking, C.C. Etc etc)

Forgot to specify that £3800 is the labour price. Materials are coming up to around £800. There is a driveway so no parking charge. Terraced house. Location Romford/Essex (outskirts of London)
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I get it to around £5000 and that's up North so it would be even dearer in London.
Are you able to notify all this work?

The price of £3800 is labour only, with materials it’s about £4600. What do you mean by notify the work? I’ve read something about telling building control but I haven’t read too much into that yet. I have an electrician who will give it an initial verification install cert.
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That would be £4500-£4800 ish down here mate so I’d say way to cheap for London.....you’ll need to put a parking ticket a day on that at least ?

Labour and materials included will be £4600. It’s on the outskirts of London, Romford to be precise. So no parking tickets.

 

[Bob Geldoff1234]

By law,you have to notify Building Control if you have done new circuits,consumer unit etc.You either have to be in a scheme(NIC,NAPIT) or you pay the council to notify it,which can be up to £300.You will also have to issue an DEIC certificate.

 

[ppelec100]

By law,you have to notify Building Control if you have done new circuits,consumer unit etc.You either have to be in a scheme(NIC,NAPIT) or you pay the council to notify it,which can be up to £300.You will also have to issue an DEIC certificate.

Sooo what would my best option be? I'm not registered to anything, only got my apprenticeship qualifications lol. Can I still notify the council myself? Or could I get the electrician who will test my install to notify them? Also what is a DEIC cert? I'm guessing you meant EIC electrical install cert?
Also I know this is another question now, but does anyone actually notify building control for new circuits or a consumer unit change etc? Seems a bit excessive.

 

[Baddegg]

We all notify through our respective schemes mate that’s the point of em, if you can find a spark who registered for third party work and is also willing to do it then yep he/she can notify....,but they are thin on the ground...

 

[Bob Geldoff1234]

If your going to be rewiring houses then you need to join a scheme.You cannot notify them without being in a scheme or direct which costs the £300.As Baddegg says you might find an electrician who could do the notification.
DEIC is Domestic Electrical Installation Certificate.
To answer your question above,all registered electricians notify their work as and when needed.The house owner would need the certificates when renting or selling the house so it needs notifying to comply with the law.

 

[Dustydazzler]

I live in north surrey but have done a fair amount of work in London.
the rewire alone comes out at £7000 using my current price list. Full rcbo consumer unit and decent brand wiring accessories,
i am not vat registered.
if their is Street parking charges This will go on top at £40 per day For however many days it takes.
(I allowed £250 for the cable run to the shed (4mm swa) but it could be less Depending on how close The shed is)

 

[ppelec100]

We all notify through our respective schemes mate that’s the point of em, if you can find a spark who registered for third party work and is also willing to do it then yep he/she can notify....,but they are thin on the ground...

The tester has said he will notify building control once they have tested the install.
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I live in north surrey but have done a fair amount of work in London.
the rewire alone comes out at £7000 using my current price list. Full rcbo consumer unit and decent brand wiring accessories,
i am not vat registered.
if their is Street parking charges This will go on top at £40 per day For however many days it takes.
(I allowed £250 for the cable run to the shed (4mm swa) but it could be less Depending on how close The shed is)

Hi would you mind sharing your method of pricing please? Do you charge per point? The same for all points or?
Also for the shed supply I am only running it from the consumer unit to the start point of the garden just so that if they plaster/floor the property it won’t be a nightmare to run in the future, I am not terminating it.
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If your going to be rewiring houses then you need to join a scheme.You cannot notify them without being in a scheme or direct which costs the £300.As Baddegg says you might find an electrician who could do the notification.
DEIC is Domestic Electrical Installation Certificate.
To answer your question above,all registered electricians notify their work as and when needed.The house owner would need the certificates when renting or selling the house so it needs notifying to comply with the law.

The tester who has said he will do the initial verification said he will notify building control for me.
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Any methods on pricing then guys? You’ve told me rough prices, but how do you get to them prices normally? How much do you charge per point DS/Switch/Light etc?

 

[Dustydazzler]

ppelec , my prices are based upon experience of looking at what a customer wants and how much I think the job is worth...
pricing a job on a ‘points‘ based system has never really worked for me.
i usually work out the materials using a wholesalers price and then decide how labour intensive the job is (how long it will take).
one think I have learned is that most jobs take longer than you anticipate,
so if you think you can bang out the rewire in say 8 days , it will take you 10

 

[Leesparkykent]

You could do that for £4600. I’m in Kent and that’s how much it would be roughly around here. That would be the keenish price and around £5200 would be pushing your luck, again local to me.

 

[Ruxdhh]

Okay so i've got a 3 bedroom house to rewire and i need to give the client a quote.
This will be my first own rewire, but i've done a few with other electricians i've worked with in the past, simple but messy. Just finished my apprenticeship too, so i'm not too bothered about making a killing off of it, i would like to get the job mainly for the experience but at a worthy price.

The house will have
29 socket points (including double/single/spurs)
11 or 12 switches (for lights)
10 basic lighting points (pendant/bulkhead)
9 downlight points
2 wall lights
1 heat and 2 smoke detectors
Ex fan + isolator /
Electric oven supply (switch and outlet connection)
A cable run and coiled up for a shed supply (when the shed is built in the future)
Electric shower supply (isolator and shower connection)
Consumer unit fit + double pole isolator
Bonding gas + water

Note: they are having the walls plastered so i don't need to make good. the fan hole is already drilled out. house is non occupied, but they are having some small works done before/while we rewire.

The price I have come up with is £3800 but I feel as if this is too low..

What would be a good price for all this work to be done?
Also any ideas/formulas on how to calculate the pricing will be much appreciated!
Also do you add a mark up percentage or anything on materials? If so how much?

How much per hour do you want to earn?
How many hours will the job take to complete?
Multiply those 2 figures together and add on the materials and parking charges