Used Rcbo's Yay or nay??

[TheCodboy]

Been asked to carry out some bathroom work including new spots, underfloor heating etc. The existing DB is an old Square D board with no rcd protection at all. Customer wont pay for a new DB, and ive priced a drop in rcbo....... £177 each. Passed this info on to the home owner, and hes complaining (surprise). He's asked me about used ones from eBay etc. Normally i would just say no but there's a few quid in the bathroom works so im trying to find asolution. So, the big question.... Used rcbo yes or no?? I did explain to the home owner that i could offer no guarantee whatsoever for the rcbo if purchased second hand.

 

[Marcus Vaughan]

If it’s a square D - Domae range then a new Schneider Easy 9 RCBO will fit straight in and with manufacturers blessing....

I have been through this myself and it’s posted on here somewhere.....

 

[Wilko]

That company not on the right committee

 

[TheCodboy]

If it’s a square D - Domae range then a new Schneider Easy 9 RCBO will fit straight in and with manufacturers blessing....

I have been through this myself and it’s posted on here somewhere.....

Its a QO, the black ones.

 

[westward10]

Square D QO106B10RCBO30F 6 Amp Type B Single Pole 30mA 10kA 240V QOvs RCBO > QOvs (formerly QOE) RCBO's > RCBOs > Square D > Electrical Supplies > Zetmet Ltd - https://www.electricaldiscountedsupplies.com/product.php/754/square_d_qo106b10rcbo30f_6_amp_type_b_single_pole_30ma_10ka_240v_qovs_rcbo/903f86b2699d5e47f623e3d510fb088d

 

[TheCodboy]

Square D QO106B10RCBO30F 6 Amp Type B Single Pole 30mA 10kA 240V QOvs RCBO > QOvs (formerly QOE) RCBO's > RCBOs > Square D > Electrical Supplies > Zetmet Ltd - https://www.electricaldiscountedsupplies.com/product.php/754/square_d_qo106b10rcbo30f_6_amp_type_b_single_pole_30ma_10ka_240v_qovs_rcbo/903f86b2699d5e47f623e3d510fb088d

Neweys and Parks both quoted me around the £170 mark. Neweys were the cheaper.

 

[westward10]

Bit of vat and postage job done.

 

[GBDamo]

According to the 18th Ed an rcd spur is not listed as a device for providing additional protection.

I took off the "disagree" as you are correct, they are not listed but, as has been said numerous times and from numerous scheme's advisors, they are ok for continued use.

Don't know why some people can't let this one go, have you shorted the manufacturer's stock or some such?

 

[GBDamo]

Anyone know why this is?

It's not the case, the advice I got from NAPIT is it is probably an omission and they advise to continue using them, others have asked their scheme the same question and got the same answer.

 

[Pretty Mouth]

It's not the case, the advice I got from NAPIT is it is probably an omission and they advise to continue using them, others have asked their scheme the same question and got the same answer.

Thanks, that's good to know. The bulk of my work is minor additions in domestic, so RCD spurs are often convenient to use.

 

[Octopus]

ebay RCBO. fit and test. sorted.

BUT also make sure your quote and invoice clearly state that the RCBO is 2nd hand and has no warranty.........

 

[GBDamo]

Thanks, that's good to know. The bulk of my work is minor additions in domestic, so RCD spurs are often convenient to use.

Ive had a recent glut of floor box additions onto busbar track systems, legrand Electrak, which are all protected upfront by MCBs with the additional protection for the sockets provided by RCD sockets in the floor box.

I did again ask the question if I'd have to put the busbars on an RCBOs and got the same answer, no so long as the circuits didn't require RCDs which they didn't.

Guess we'll have to wait for the first amendment for the black and white clarification.

 

[TheCodboy]

Square D QO106B10RCBO30F 6 Amp Type B Single Pole 30mA 10kA 240V QOvs RCBO > QOvs (formerly QOE) RCBO's > RCBOs > Square D > Electrical Supplies > Zetmet Ltd - https://www.electricaldiscountedsupplies.com/product.php/754/square_d_qo106b10rcbo30f_6_amp_type_b_single_pole_30ma_10ka_240v_qovs_rcbo/903f86b2699d5e47f623e3d510fb088d

Your help is very much appreciated, many thanks!

 

[GBDamo]

Just to add a little more clarity to this, is that not a BS4293 device?

 

[MG201]

wilrose electrical supply parts that are tested and have lots of obsolete breakers etc .

 

[Charlie_]

I think the issue is that the devices listed in the regs are designed primarily for the installation of fixed wiring..
Where as, Fused outlets, sockets, etc are designed primarily for equipment that is to be connected to the installation..