veritas 8c alarm

[Phillcbr400]

Sorry can't access the alarms forums hence why it's here.

The plan is to move a veritas 8 compact alarm into an upstairs cupboard and have a remote keypad at the door. When fitting the keypad today just to see if all is ok (which it is), I noticed when I disconnected the supply and battery the bell went off. I understand this is normal due to the bell battery. My question is, when I disconnect and remove all the pir's how will I stop this, is there a code to de activate or reactivate the sounders?
Any help is appreciated

 

[accordfire]

You wont' stop the external sounder all the time there's no power to it. It's designed to do that to stop little oiks from hammering it off the wall.

If you're only removing PIRS or internal devices, simply enter the customer code to silence - it will show a tamper fault (if wired correctly) until the PIR is reassembled and the lid put on, at which point customer code will reset the system.

 

[Phillcbr400]

Ill have to remove the bell wires aswell as the full unit is being moved. Looks like Ill just have to do the prep work first and make sure I work fast with connecting the bell up as priority. I've have the engineer code to disarm the tamper switch.
Thanks for the help

 

[tazz]

Old trick is to used the control panel battery, and connect to the bell box wires so you can remove the panel, connect the wire going to terminal A to the battery + and connect the wire going to terminal D to the battery -, this should hold off the bell until you relocate and reconnect the main panel again.

 

[Phillcbr400]

Will that trick the external sounder into thinking its connected? Ill give it ago, less time listening to an alarm going off is always going to be a bonus plus don't want to wake the old neighbours up from their afternoon nap time.

 

[tazz]

should be fine until you reconnect the control panel again.

 

[Phillcbr400]

Cheers for the tip tazz.

 

[tazz]

Presume it held the bell off then, ok you have till the battery runs down to relocate and power back up

 

[oldtimer]

should be fine until you reconnect the control panel again.

This depends how old the battery is ie more than 5 years then you may have problems why dont you just disconnect it or in the afternoon run the battery down 20-30 minuts. Remember if you go the battery route then fingers crossed it does no run flat at 3 in the morning

 

[accordfire]

Yup, bells across sounder + and - should hold it off for a certain amount of time - alternative being to get up a ladder, sadly....

 

[tazz]

With oldtimer`s comments in mind, i hope 1. the battery is ok...2. your connecting the bell/battery and commencing work straight away.....as it could be embarrassing at 3am

 

[oldtimer]

Yup, bells across sounder + and - should hold it off for a certain amount of time - alternative being to get up a ladder, sadly....

Also remember if you connect straight to the battery its not fused and you do not want to see one of those batteries when they get a short across them.

Its ok to do this for 5-30 minutes but not 1-2 days

 

[i=p/u]

I removed an alarm system one time and forgot about sounder in bell box, up the ladder, hammer and snip,

 

[telectrix]

you had a vasectomy up a ladder?

 

[tazz]

fuse is to protect the control panel only, although bell units are now more complex, the charging circuit remains the same 6v battery and a 2.2k resister and diode wired in series, these regulate the charging current so even if the cables short the battery is protected, the old bell box batteries have a habbit of spliting open when there passed there sell by date