Wago Connectors for Damaged Cable in Loft

[Andrei_A]

Hi all - have discovered a damaged cable in the loft - seems to be from the 1st Floor Lights Ring Circuit. Have cut the cable and reconnected it with Wago Connectors - see pics (yes i have switched off electricity and tested the cable was dead before cutting). This particular cable has 4 cables run through it. Am i ok to leave it as it is - with the wago connectors and put it in a Wago Box? I know ideally would be a like for like replacement, but for the moment am i safe to leave it as is? Or should i use a 32A 4 way junction box?

 

[Andy5678]

Get a wago box to enclose the connections and put a tie wrap round it.

Is there black tape on there too? What’s that hiding?

 

[Andrei_A]

Get a wago box to enclose the connections and put a tie wrap round it.

Is there black tape on there too? What’s that hiding?

Hi Andy - thanks for the reply - yes i have wago box and will add. And yes i have added some black tape, not really hiding anything, added it as a precaution in case the connection becomes loose - i take it i shouldn't do it? Have pushed the cables all the way till the end, and checked they were properly inserted - pulled on the cables slightly.

Thanks again for your reply!

 

[Dustydazzler]

As it is would be classed as half a job

Ideally it would re made off and all housed in a suitable MF box

 

[Andrei_A]

As it is would be classed as half a job

Ideally it would re made off and all housed in a suitable MF box

32A MF box? i could only find 20A 4 way box hence why i opted for the Wago connectors. Could only find a 4 way basic junction box at 32A. Would a 20A mf box be suitable? my CU downstairs is 32A (written on it).

Thanks for your reply Dusty

 

[Deleted member 105166]

I'd also get rid of those two screw heads whilst I was up there.

 

[Andrei_A]

I'd also get rid of those two screw heads whilst I was up there.

yes yes they are on the list for tonight .. thinking that's how they got damaged in the first place

 

[Andrei_A]

As it is would be classed as half a job

Ideally it would re made off and all housed in a suitable MF box

Will i be ok with a 20A MF box? like this one: Ashley J804 Maintenance Free Junction Box 20A 4 Terminal - https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/ASJ804.html?source=adwords&ad_position=&ad_id=315107931576&placement=&kw=&network=u&matchtype=&ad_type=&product_id=ASJ804&product_partition_id=297072075353&version=finalurl_v3&gclid=Cj0KCQjwuZDtBRDvARIsAPXFx3Cb903jVryoL8ZbJty-WGQYkBxH1IgdYvXqQJqFs_bbBff_XYCuOVEaAt2xEALw_wcB

thanks

 

[StephenRowley]

Will i be ok with a 20A MF box? like this one: Ashley J804 Maintenance Free Junction Box 20A 4 Terminal - https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/ASJ804.html?source=adwords&ad_position=&ad_id=315107931576&placement=&kw=&network=u&matchtype=&ad_type=&product_id=ASJ804&product_partition_id=297072075353&version=finalurl_v3&gclid=Cj0KCQjwuZDtBRDvARIsAPXFx3Cb903jVryoL8ZbJty-WGQYkBxH1IgdYvXqQJqFs_bbBff_XYCuOVEaAt2xEALw_wcB

thanks

I think this speak to proper sparkie time tbh but as I would like to do a ring continuity check after the repair.

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[Spoon]

seems to be from the 1st Floor Lights Ring Circuit.

As it's a lighting circuit I'd be surprised if the breaker is bigger than 6A.
You don't need the connectors to be 32A.

I'd do something about them protruding screws as well. Wouldn't want anyone to kneel on them...

 

[Andy5678]

Hi Andy - thanks for the reply - yes i have wago box and will add. And yes i have added some black tape, not really hiding anything, added it as a precaution in case the connection becomes loose - i take it i shouldn't do it? Have pushed the cables all the way till the end, and checked they were properly inserted - pulled on the cables slightly.

Thanks again for your reply!

I wouldn’t tape them if they are made off correctly, so it can be easily inspected in the future. Will be inside an enclosure anyway

 

[ipf]

You say you isolated the circuit. Are you sure it's a 32amp circuit breaker, as you say? It's a 3 core and earth, probably 1.5mm, generally used in lighting circuits and, therefore, not a ring. As Spoon says, probably a smaller breaker, so 20amp box OK (as long as it is).
Regarding those screws, just clip the cables clear of them as long as they aren't exposed and in a dangerous position.
Prefer lever wagos, myself.

 

[fairlight]

The conductors are way too short, it's much easier to terminate, and to be sure they are correctly terminated if they are a little longer. If you are using a MF wago box you'll find a conductor length of around 3-4" will enable the sheath to secure nicely in the cable retainer and the wagos will drop snugly into the slots.

 

[123]

It doesn't need to be an MF connection as you can clearly get access to it. I'd personally still go with Wago's and a Wago box though