Wagos'

[Mr Hehound]

After alot of recommendations I dragged myself from the dark ages last friday and bought a big box of Wagos' at ELEX.

No probs with how the connectors themselves work but could someone give me an idea when they need to be in wago boxes and when they don't.

I'm thinking behind plastic c/roses and pattreses etc they don't but under boards or plastered into chases etc they do?

What about behind class1 fittings?

And am I even right in thinking these are classed as maintenance free so can be plastered in if necessary?

Thanks.

 

[ferg]

I don't use wago boxes I prefer The LINE enclosures.

They have to be in a suitable enclosure just like any other kind of connector.

AFAIK Some wago's are MF if derated and in a suitable MF enclosure.

As far as plastering in go's .... I wouldn't personally plaster in any kind of junction box.
If I absolutely had to have a connection behind plaster it would be solder/ crimp and heatshrink.

 

[Darkwood]

If you want to utilise their Maintenance Free (M/F) option then they need to be inside a M/F box to suit.... having said that i still wouldn't be burying them in plaster as the boxes in Wago's range are not IP rated to allow this... if you mean been contained within a plasterboard/stud wall then yes....

I still recommend joints be accessible for fault situe's if possible and would not recommend burying any joint box in plaster.

Note! the Wago's like other connectors need to be in an enclosure they shouldn't be be left openly terminated.

 

[Steve_P]

Can't say better than that Darkwood. Only addition is that although there are wagoboxes, they are somewhat cramped and as long as they are in an enclosure, it doesn't have to be made by wago/hellerman.

 

[Mr Hehound]

Thanks all - this has helped.

 

[Mr Hehound]

Oh yeah - another question.

Also saw but didn't buy SpliceLine butt splices.

Thought they looked ok (for example) for extending short wiring for CU moves rather than using crimps - I shy away from soldering cos I'm crap at it no matter how much I practice.

Anyone used them?

 

[Richard Burns]

The splices are great where you are just extending a cable, only a bit bigger than a crimp but much faster. Better than the 2 pole push fits because the cables go in form either end.

 

[Geordie Spark]

Oh yeah - another question.

Also saw but didn't buy SpliceLine butt splices.

Thought they looked ok (for example) for extending short wiring for CU moves rather than using crimps - I shy away from soldering cos I'm crap at it no matter how much I practice.

Anyone used them?

Ask Marvo our friendly Mod about this.

He's an expert at soldering now.

 

[Mr Hehound]

From the sound of his recent exploits he might make a pretty good soldier too.

 

[Phoenix]

Just bought some of the splicelines for a CU move, brilliant! I don't like crimps and my soldering is OK for my 12v work but I don't think I'd trust it on mains stuff, so these really are a godsend for me!

 

[Dizzy_Maskell]

I am eagerly awaiting the day these type of connectors are used in consumer units and distribution boards even dare sockets and lights etc would make the job a dream

 

[amlu]

just to let you know that wago 862 exist.
WAGO Limited -- Online Shop -- 862 Series
quoted from the website:
For solid, stranded & flexible conductors.
Quick, easy to use, re-usable, safe and vibration-proof.
500V / 32A / 0.5 - 4mm

and yeah, they do accept any cable no matter stranded or solid. and you push a big button with a screwdriver to open the terminal and push the wire in.
and they dont need a din rail you can fix it to some wood with small screws.

not regular stuff screwfix of wholesalers stock, bit more pricey but sometimes really useful.

 

[Marvo]

Ask Marvo our friendly Mod about this.

He's an expert at soldering now.

Getting better by the day

From the sound of his recent exploits he might make a pretty good soldier too.

I was a fairly average one in my younger days.

I am eagerly awaiting the day these type of connectors are used in consumer units and distribution boards even dare sockets and lights etc would make the job a dream

A few years ago there were a couple of ranges of light switches ans sockets available with push-in type connectors available locally to us. They were never very popular and I'm not sure if they're still available, I haven't seen them for a while.

 

[LineProducts]

Hi All
Just a reminder that you can get all the connectors mentioned above direct from LINE and at a best price (even lower than the so called ELEX specials).
click on sponsor link on RHS or http://www,lineproducts.co.uk/forumshop