Wall socket

[Highlandbilly]

Is it ok to spike a socket across an inner wall
Have wired in a few sockets and one is above a cross beam in an inner wall that i wanted to drop down but hole in beam only enough for one twin and earth
Cant get access to open or drill hole as its behind splash-back
But across from where i want socket in other side of wall in other room is socket (single wired end of ring?)
So can spike from it but would mean very short twin and earth (6ins maybe) would this shortness cause a problem

 

[Mike Johnson]

Sorry my fault i mean single grey twin and earth as opposed to two or three
Most sockets i have changed have 1 grey twin and earth coming in and another all twisted together going to next one
So i presume a socket with only 1 twin and earth is either end of ring or a spur already

Is 4-6 inches to short to spur a socket with a twin and earth cable (across an inner wall) i was thinking maybe wrongly if wires heat up in short distance

If the previous sockets you have changed have only one grey T&E coming in then its either a spur or a end of radial, ITS NOT AN END OF RING, sorry to shout, but you have said this a couple of times and not taken notice of what is posted, your latest incongruous remark is "another all twisted together" what is all twisted together? We are all trying to help here, but your lack of knowledge is very worrying/confusing.

 

[telectrix]

Sorry for being so thick but i have a spur in another room with double socket and in this double socket i have floor lamp plugged into one side and a 4 way fused extension cable into other side with (phone charger/laptop charger/ps4/table lamp

Can hear the overload screams already but have had no problems

you won't see an overload. the extension lead itself is fused at 13A.

 

[Highlandbilly]

Ok which one of these would you do if you had to do one (forget regs for a minute)
Spar off the spar or spar off socket where the spar comes from (which has a kettle plugged in 24/7

 

[Mike Johnson]

I don't know what it is your taking, but you need to cut down. ?

 

[Mike Johnson]

Ok which one of these would you do if you had to do one (forget regs for a minute)
Spur off the spur or spur off socket where the spur comes from (which has a kettle plugged in 24/7

 

[brianmoooore]

You are (probably) attempting to feed a second spur from an exiting spur off of a RFC.
If you were fitting the second spur immediately adjacent to the existing spur, using six inches of wire, then it would be contrary to the wiring regulations, but safe, and certainly safer than the use of adaptors in the existing spur.
You are proposing fitting the second spur, still with just six inches of wire, to the opposite side of the wall. This is still contrary to the wiring regs. for the same reason as the scenario above, but in this case, is not safe, because of the increased possibility of a heavy load being connected to both spurs.
You might argue that you would never do this, but fixed wiring has to be installed not just for your safety, but for the safety of those that come after you as well.

 

[Mike Johnson]

Highlandbilly, it does not matter how many time you ask the question you are not going to get the answer you want, until you can correctly identify the circuit you want to break into and even then you may not get the answer you want, we are not being awkward, but your descriptions/questions are a bit worrying and we are trying to protect you and yours and whoever comes after you.

 

[telectrix]

your descriptions are a bit worrying.

what's more worrying is who the hell decided to supply electricity to aberdeenshire????

 

[Zerax]

Assuming that you do indeed have a ring final circuit... although I'm not yet convinced... you need to look at Appendix 15 on page 505 of the 18th edition... nice picture there that will show you what you should be doing. I would put up a pic... but I'm not allowed to reproduce it.

 

[Moley]

what's more worrying is who the hell decided to supply electricity to aberdeenshire????

It's not that surprising. We've even got electricity in Wales now. I hear we'll be getting running water next ?

 

[7029 dave]

What size fuse/mcb in on this circuit, dont think the OP has told us.?

Plus is it RCD protected.

 

[telectrix]

It's not that surprising. We've even got electricity in Wales now. I hear we'll be getting running water next ?

you already got your fair shaare of rivers, whart more do you taffys want? ???

 

[Moley]

you already got your fair shaare of rivers, whart more do you taffys want? ???

Home rule for the Rhondda vallies? I think we might be going a bit off topic here? ?

 

[telectrix]

Home rule for the Rhondda vallies? I think we might be going a bit off topic here? ?

might be a good idea, that. then when all the power stations want coal to feed the demand for electric car chargers, you could reopen the pits and name your price for coal.

 

[Moley]

might be a good idea, that. then when all the power stations want coal to feed the demand for electric car chargers, you could reopen the pits and name your price for coal.

How do you burn coal at gas and nuclear power stations?