So went to help out a new company as a subby today possibly for more too as electrician they had onboard was keen on drink ;-) lots of it stashed on site etc..
They have a 1st yr apprentice left there trying to basically learn to fit new kitchen wiring and bathrooms with no knowledge at all basically and while elderly people are still living in the flats high rise.
I start looking to fit new socket faces and general 2nd fix and test today and find back boxes all steaming etc.. and the tiler has tiled at 55 degree angles to the boxes that were already on the lash ! then I get to asking him- apprentice why they have run spurs off spurs off spurs from original ring all in 4mm twin no less at a guess to carry the current as opposed to 2.5 and extending the ring final, and they have in a few flats looped 4mm twins in and out and picked up DP switches to isolate sockets in alcoves etc.. for washing machines and the like then added as I say spur after spur essentially making one point of the entire flat ring circuit into a radial.
Then at one end they have fed 4mm into a single box to feed a switch for an extract fan up above and come straight off in 1.0mm twin ! I said why not into a SFCU to enable fusing it down at least but he said two sparks said it was all good ?? well he said one said he wouldn't do it like that but it was ok !
Next flat even better same issue mainly spur off ring and then as a radial to 6 plus sockets or DP switches and on to sockets after, then I ask where is feed from ring in ? Young lad says oh it's there other side of kitchen ! So I look and no they have a cupboard with a big slack heap of 4mm bundled in there, then he says oh yeah there's a feed the other side to opposite work top and units too, no linking cables up and over etc.. just the single 4mm one side spurred off the ring and other side of kitchen everything is linked together and waiting to be fed separately from the 4mm bundled in a hall cupboard ! So by now I'm thinking someone has a big hat and horse outside, and so in for a penny I ask him where the previous spark had said he was taking the 4mm ? and he says just in the back of that single socket in the hallway to feed the kitchen as a spur !!
Where do these people come from and how can they sleep at night !
Am I just being picky or is it utter shi*e ??
They have a 1st yr apprentice left there trying to basically learn to fit new kitchen wiring and bathrooms with no knowledge at all basically and while elderly people are still living in the flats high rise.
I start looking to fit new socket faces and general 2nd fix and test today and find back boxes all steaming etc.. and the tiler has tiled at 55 degree angles to the boxes that were already on the lash ! then I get to asking him- apprentice why they have run spurs off spurs off spurs from original ring all in 4mm twin no less at a guess to carry the current as opposed to 2.5 and extending the ring final, and they have in a few flats looped 4mm twins in and out and picked up DP switches to isolate sockets in alcoves etc.. for washing machines and the like then added as I say spur after spur essentially making one point of the entire flat ring circuit into a radial.
Then at one end they have fed 4mm into a single box to feed a switch for an extract fan up above and come straight off in 1.0mm twin ! I said why not into a SFCU to enable fusing it down at least but he said two sparks said it was all good ?? well he said one said he wouldn't do it like that but it was ok !
Next flat even better same issue mainly spur off ring and then as a radial to 6 plus sockets or DP switches and on to sockets after, then I ask where is feed from ring in ? Young lad says oh it's there other side of kitchen ! So I look and no they have a cupboard with a big slack heap of 4mm bundled in there, then he says oh yeah there's a feed the other side to opposite work top and units too, no linking cables up and over etc.. just the single 4mm one side spurred off the ring and other side of kitchen everything is linked together and waiting to be fed separately from the 4mm bundled in a hall cupboard ! So by now I'm thinking someone has a big hat and horse outside, and so in for a penny I ask him where the previous spark had said he was taking the 4mm ? and he says just in the back of that single socket in the hallway to feed the kitchen as a spur !!
Where do these people come from and how can they sleep at night !
Am I just being picky or is it utter shi*e ??
