What do you reckon then?

[FatAlan]

Been round to a mates house this evening and noticed that over half his down lights weren't working. Told that the LV transformers keep packing up due to over heating.

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[FatAlan]

Another snap.

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[Leesparkykent]

Get them ripped out and fit some LED's .

 

[FatAlan]

I've advised that they should replace with LED GU10s so got myself a job. Thinking I'd use wagos and the wago light junction boxes.

 

[hightower]

I've advised that they should replace with LED GU10s so got myself a job. Thinking I'd use wagos and the wago light junction boxes.

Why? Get a decent enough replacement and there'll be room enough to terminate both cables in the fitting

 

[Leesparkykent]

I've advised that they should replace with LED GU10s so got myself a job. Thinking I'd use wagos and the wago light junction boxes.

I like these Hylec-APL | Emech Terminals/Accessories | Chassis/Panel Mount Tml/Boxes | DEBOX SL - http://www.hylec-apl.com/Emech-Terminals-Accessories/Chassis-Panel-Mount-Terminal-Connection-Boxes/DEBOX_SL.html

Them downlights look like they are in a bit of a poor state might be worth upgrading to integrated fittings or cans and lamps that can accommodate both cables without the use of a junction box if budget permits.

Edit. hightower beat me to it

 

[FatAlan]

Just thinking that Hightower. The circuit has two switches on it one of which is a dimmer. Wondering if that would have been affecting the life of the transformers?

 

[FatAlan]

Thanks for the suggestions. Will certainly try and connect direct to fitting.

 

[Leesparkykent]

You can pick up Aurora cans and dimmable lamps for around £6 a fitting. By the time you buy a lamp, lamp holder and JB you wont be far off that.

 

[davesparks]

Why? Get a decent enough replacement and there'll be room enough to terminate both cables in the fitting

Not necessarily, a top notch LED down light such as the eco-star units need a jb as they just have a prewired flex tail

 

[hightower]

Not necessarily, a top notch LED down light such as the eco-star units need a jb as they just have a prewired flex tail

So then i suggest the OP doesn't buy that model ffs

 

[FatAlan]

The cut outs in the ceiling are 2.5in / 63mm diameter. They've specified Matt white / paintable flush fit.

 

[telectrix]

and you will probably need to replace the dimmer as well.

 

[davesparks]

So then i suggest the OP doesn't buy that model ffs

Calm down, I was only pointing out that a decent quality fitting doesn't need necessarily have a terminal box for two cables

 

[FatAlan]

Ok. Moving on. Searching for a flush fit or very low profile Matt/paintable white downlight that will fit through a 63mm diameter hole in ceiling. Options seem extremely limited or non existent from what I can see.
How does one expand an existing hole by a few mm. Does anyone produce a jig for a hole saw to keep it central or do I have to invent one?