What shall I put on the form!!!!!!

[lloyd1980]

Hi guys a bit of advice would be appreciated please!!!
Got called to price for a consumer unit change at a privatly owned residential flat.
Lovely 85 year old fella owned it, really proudly showing me around and showing off the DIY Electrics hes done himself!
His shower is fed in 6mm, its an 8.5kw unit, also hes spliced into the shower cable and tapped off to feed his immersion heater, half his immersion is on economy 7 half is on standard, he has wired sockets here there and everywhere and it is a total mess.
Half the stuff hell prob get away with without a problem but his shower cable worries me.
Now ive made him aware that it isnt up to standards and needs looking at but hes adament he just wants the board change and thats all.
Am just wondering if and its a big if - the RCD's all hold, what do I do about the paperwork, its then basically a rats nest attached to a new board.
Have looked on the EI Cert and there only seems to be a limitations box on the periodic form, do I comment at the bottom of the EI cert under observations?
and just say customer has instructed me not to touch and put right the wiring???
I just want to get it right as dont want to be screwed in court as putting my name to it.
Really appreciate any help.
thank you guys

 

[acat]

Walk away and forget it. Having done the CU change you take responsibility for all the circuits in the house and your work has to comply with the regs. How can you possibly certify something that is dangerous and not allowed. Thats my opinion cover your own back if it all goes wrong I bet you a pound to a penny you will get 100% of the blame.


Chris

 

[Graeme Harrold]

Just dont do it, type up a letter of explination and walk away. If needs be throw together a rectification quote and stand your ground. Unless you can do it right, it aint worth the agro or long term stress worrying when it will go pear shaped. Just because the customer says its OK dosent give you the get out if you end up in court.

 

[Des 56]

I dont think you would be wise to change the cons unit under the circumstances if he is not prepared to listen to your safety advise
If overloading were to occur and a fire ensued,you would be in a difficult situation after being aware of a potential problem and then ignoring it. because, you are the specialist who is expected to know better and a plea of the "customer wouldn't listen" would fall on deaf ears in a court

 

[Bright Sparks]

Totally agree, walk away.

 

[Tin]

I agree, walking away will be the best step. If you do the work and something happens afterwards then its all down to you. If this man is a DIY nut, then you cant predict what he will do after you have done the work, and if he does sumthing wrong he wont hold his hands up and admit it was him, he will point the finger at you.

Ive seen it happen before.

 

[Danny Pross]

I think it is worth setting the departures out in writing - stating clearly that you consider them a potential threat to safety and recommending remedial action.
I think Elecsa produce a standard "Danger Notification" form (?)

Even if you refuse to change the CU, you dont want your name coming up later if a problem arises.
Hope this helps.

D

 

[jackdor]

Yea elecsa do, i use them when clients dont want the lighting circuits rewiring when they have no cpc,s and i have replaced the ccu. I keep a copy stapled to a copy of the quote for the replacing or rectifing of the problem. I agree with the other posts dont certify some ones bad or dangerous work.