what to suggest when no circuits have rcd protection

[The Ghost]

I was really more hoping for views like the OP about classifying this area, as we have inherited this report for whatever reason and are essentially grappling with the same considerations. I am looking for constructive criticism leading to a fair resolution not accusations of a criminal nature from a trusted advisor most especially in a public arena. For instance if you think it is all C3 including special locations please enlighten with reasons is it not what this forum is for, keeping it polite and professional ?

 

[bigspark17]

It sounds to me V although your approaching this eicr as if it a EIC, you are there to assess safety for continued use! Which scheme are you with?

 

[The Ghost]

This is light commercial, but I am with STROMA but how would you assess safety for continued use where there are showers with no RCD?

 

[The Ghost]

This report we have btw is inherited from a large well known firm. So anything on it is what they have found. We for whatever reason are dealing with the report and their perceptions on RCD's and classifications hence the interest in other views of classification

 

[Risteard]

This report we have btw is inherited from a large well known firm. So anything on it is what they have found. We for whatever reason are dealing with the report and their perceptions on RCD's and classifications hence the interest in other views of classification

I'm a bit confused. Are you saying that the EICR has been compiled by others and you are now carrying out remedial works based on it?

 

[The Ghost]

I'm a bit confused. Are you saying that the EICR has been compiled by others and you are now carrying out remedial works based on it?

Yes

 

[Risteard]

Yes

OK. In that case I would just carry out whatever remedial works have been asked for. I don't think it's your job to assess the validity of the original report.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Lol, nothing like making things clear.
"We are doing EICR's on four large buildings with various states of RCD/or no protection. We C1 cables buried in walls in one building. C2 People could access outside with equipment and cleaners sockets. C3 any area that has none of these but are used by non competent office staff. That last sentence came across badlly perhaps. perhaps I should say "are for general use without the supervision of a skilled or instructed person" Leading to unsatisfactory on EICR. Relying on Reg 411.3.3"
Is now: We are doing the remedials for ECIRs. They have used code C1 for.....

 

[The Ghost]

I find it hard to understand how that is of relevance to what I have asked for or posted

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Not exactly sure what it is you have asked for.
Your first post is a list of codes you apply, which then turns out to be a list of codes someone else applies.
It's been pointed out that a code C1 is not applicable.
I've also pointed out that a code C2 is also not applicable.
I further pointed out that there is no requirement to provide RCD protection for sockets which could be used to supply equipment outdoors.

So you could you please indicate what exactly it is you are asking?

 

[The Ghost]

Post 73/76

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Post 63.

 

[Risteard]

I've also pointed out that a code C2 is also not applicable.

Lack of RCD protection where now required might attract a C2 classification or a C3 classification depending on the specifics. It's certainly not correct to state that it can't be a C2 issue.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Lol, here we go again.
From what I recall, the ESC recommend a code C3 for most sockets and code C2 for those that may be expected to be used for mobile equipment outdoors.
The fact that there is no longer a requirement to provide RCD for such sockets notwithstanding.
I see you no longer have a reference to being registered with the NICEIC.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Seems I am incorrect.
They do not recommend a code C2, no code at all.