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Hi All...

Got a dilemma which I'm not happy with...

Was asked to quote on some domestic work recently, most of which was putting up some new light fittings, dimmer switches and other general cosmetic work for someone who had just moved into their new property, however, they also wanted some work doing in two ensuite bathrooms and the work was going to be notifiable - which is not a problem as I am a CPS registered member with Elecsa.

On my follow up to my initial visit the prospect advised me that their builder would do the electrics for "free"..... Ok, so I lost the work but I advised them to ensure that their builder or whoever they subcontracted to electrical work to was in a position to notify building control and issue the appropriate paperwork and now here is the problem....

The person who has carried out the work is not qualified and thus not registered and therefore not in a position to follow the correct and legal process and seeing as the client has knowingly instructed the work to a non competant party they have broken the law.

I am furious from an ethical and moral point, yes, I am new to the trade but I believe in doing the job right. I have studied hard, passed all the right exams, got myself CPS registered and started to build a reliable, reputable and trustworthy business.

Do I notify LBC that work has been instructed by someone knowingly to someone who is effectively a "rogue" trader, both parties are clearly in the wrong?

It might seem a bit of an over reaction on my behalf but there is a right way of doing things and a wrong way and this is clearly the later..... If this sort of thing never gets reported then nothing will ever get done about it!!!!

Would like to hear your points of view.....
 
i would report them to everyone I could think of and demand that something be done. If nothing happened I would write to my local papers and my MP and shame them into taking action. This is a prime opportunity to rid the world of one cowboy
 
i agree with trev on this one, we all pay the scam fees every year, insurance, updates for the regs everytime they fancy changing the colour of the cover, so why should someone else get the work that we are supposed to do. I do think its highly unlikely that anything will be done about it but worth a try! Did you see the finished work? They may well be competent, and just not registered, but still breaking the law (unless they notified LABC - yeah right, i know.. fat chance!)
 
I am with all the others (and your good self) on this one. Spill the beans mate, its in your own interest to protect your income. There are too many good hard working individuals like you who are loosing out to cowboys, and other assorted dross like the lepers who hang about outside Electrifix with catalogue in hand, cant speak English and ask things like "I Do light in bathroom for friend but not know what i need, will you help", to which i replied with the well coined phrase "OFF". Shop the ****, it may not come to anything, but you will feel better for it.

Cheers.........Howard
 
If I were the OP I'd make damn sure something got done because I'd be on to LABC, Trading Standards, Dominic Littlewood, Clive Holland, Watchdog and anyone else I could think of as often as I could. If I didn't get satisfaction I'd write to my MP and demand he/she did something, they amke the laws so they should ensure they get upheld
 
I'm not convinced you got told the whole story. Very few do anything free.

My guess is the builder loaded his price to allow for offering to do it "free" to ensure he got the whole job.

Yes you should shop him!
 
Thanks for your comments guys, at least I now know that I wasn't being over zealous with my feelings on the subject....

Murdoch - you're absolutely right, no such thing as a free lunch!!!

Oh well, may be my reporting the actions of both parties will be my Christmas present to them both...!!????
 
Hi All...

Got a dilemma which I'm not happy with...

Was asked to quote on some domestic work recently, most of which was putting up some new light fittings, dimmer switches and other general cosmetic work for someone who had just moved into their new property, however, they also wanted some work doing in two ensuite bathrooms and the work was going to be notifiable - which is not a problem as I am a CPS registered member with Elecsa.

On my follow up to my initial visit the prospect advised me that their builder would do the electrics for "free"..... Ok, so I lost the work but I advised them to ensure that their builder or whoever they subcontracted to electrical work to was in a position to notify building control and issue the appropriate paperwork and now here is the problem....

The person who has carried out the work is not qualified and thus not registered and therefore not in a position to follow the correct and legal process and seeing as the client has knowingly instructed the work to a non competant party they have broken the law.

I am furious from an ethical and moral point, yes, I am new to the trade but I believe in doing the job right. I have studied hard, passed all the right exams, got myself CPS registered and started to build a reliable, reputable and trustworthy business.

Do I notify LBC that work has been instructed by someone knowingly to someone who is effectively a "rogue" trader, both parties are clearly in the wrong?

It might seem a bit of an over reaction on my behalf but there is a right way of doing things and a wrong way and this is clearly the later..... If this sort of thing never gets reported then nothing will ever get done about it!!!!

Would like to hear your points of view.....

its a tricky one,questions are how do you know the builder or one of his isnt a spark or a part p'er,why would he do it for free,was it already in with the price as its a new home,who done the original work,id just put it down to experience and dont get involved in --- for tat arguments with the builder as he could do the same..
 

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