which certificate to use

[waynelester]

i have done some work in a kitchen.the customer required additional sockets as part of refit.the cooker circuit is no longer required and i have used this circiut to provide the additional sockets and have changed breaker to 20amp,which cert do i need minor or eic,thanks

 

[telectrix]

IMO, you have modified a circuit, not installed a new circuit, so MWC.

 

[bugsy]

Minor works - notifiable,

 

[gelgel010297]

if you replaced the cooker cable for the sockets and the MCB then i would say that is classed as a new circuit and requires the full test cert

 

[waynelester]

ok thanks

 

[mogga]

MCB Change = Full cert not MWC

 

[telectrix]

MCB Change = Full cert not MWC

why? it's just a mod to an existing circuit.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

I'd go with a MWC.

 

[Deleted member 9648]

It could be argued that because you have changed the characteristics of the protective device in the CU it should be an EIC.....too much faffing for me though,for the described job I'd do a MW as well....you are not going to be shot for not doing an EIC.

 

[TPES]

I have always been taught that if you change the protective device then it should be EIC, i agree with both sides here though, you are still just modifying the circuit.

 

[Des 56]

Householders have been known to modify protective devides with no Eic, mwc, or thought for eons
Fuse wire changing is no different to mcb changing,if it was a 30 amp fuse with 15 amp replacing it

I suppose we have now gone fully opposite to the not certifying age and become over sensitive to certification

Leaving what may be the correct certification
There is already differing views,so as long as you can get the information you think is needed on the Mwc, then I would go with that

 

[telectrix]

yeah, des. what happened to the good old days when we just give it a squirt with the wind up megger, switched on and see if it goes bang. no bangs, lid up and go

 

[Des 56]

Remembering my apprentice days, we got more use out of the wind up megger by clipping the leads on to some poor fellows ears with someone winding like theres no tomorrow

Testing circuits was a by product of that only

 

[gelgel010297]

surely if he is replacing the cable and MCB to put extra sockets in the kitchen they are on there own NEW circuit and not part of the original kitchen circuit so not a modification, am i missing something here ????

 

[TPES]

surely if he is replacing the cable and MCB to put extra sockets in the kitchen they are on there own NEW circuit and not part of the original kitchen circuit so not a modification, am i missing something here ????

Hes using old cooker cct