Which fire rated downlighters?

[BigReno]

Evening,
Feeling really confused about fire rated downlighters. We need 26 for our extension which is part flat ceiling and part vaulted ceiling. It's a kitchen/diner/family room. Have received opposing advice. Builder says just use Screwfix LAP fixed integral LED downlights. One electrician says adjustable downlights are a waste of money and to go for the integral Enlite ones and another says we should go for Enlite but ones that don't have the integrated bulb. There's a BIG price difference between these options so naturally I want to make sure I'm spending my money wisely.

 

[buzzlightyear]

if a vaulted ceiling then the ones the spark suggested . you can then adjust the other ones to suit .I would go for the enlite ones

 

[Wilko]

Hi BR and welcome .
Enlite is a quality brand that I use too. Whether you’d like a unit where you can easily replace the lamp is up to you. If GU10, then their 5W 500 lumen warm white lamp would be my choice. The clearance required behind the light and the effect of nearby insulation also varies between models.

 

[stevethesparks]

I used to shout about JCC but since they stopped production of the LED10 and Hybrid9's after I was selling them with a 10 year warranty, I wont touch them now.
Collingwood lighting have a good range, their T2Lite are very reasonably priced and tick all the boxes for me. They also have an on-site calculator of which is useful.

 

[buzzlightyear]

SCOLMORE GROUP - WIRING ACCESSORIES | CLICK Mode, smooth profile wiring accessory solutions - https://www.scolmore.com/products/mode/ I have those in my conservatory bit pricy but good .

 

[BigReno]

if a vaulted ceiling then the ones the spark suggested . you can then adjust the other ones to suit .I would go for the enlite ones

Thanks for your reply. What would be the reason to go for the integral ones rather than the ones with the replaceable bulb? Are you saying there's no point in having adjustable ones?

 

[buzzlightyear]

SCOLMORE GROUP - OVIA LIGHTING | Inceptor Micro, fire-rated, integrated LED downlight - https://www.scolmore.com/products/inceptor-micro/ the integral ones are better ,but thats my opinion.

 

[buzzlightyear]

Are you saying there's no point in having adjustable ones?

vaulted ceiling point to any direction .

 

[buzzlightyear]

There's a BIG price difference between these options so naturally I want to make sure I'm spending my money wisely.

buy c$$p pay twice .

 

[BigReno]

@buzzlightyear why in your opinion are the integral ones better?
Yes agree about paying twice and want to avoid doing that for sure.

 

[davesparks]

Evening,
Feeling really confused about fire rated downlighters. We need 26 for our extension which is part flat ceiling and part vaulted ceiling. It's a kitchen/diner/family room. Have received opposing advice. Builder says just use Screwfix LAP fixed integral LED downlights. One electrician says adjustable downlights are a waste of money and to go for the integral Enlite ones and another says we should go for Enlite but ones that don't have the integrated bulb. There's a BIG price difference between these options so naturally I want to make sure I'm spending my money wisely.

Personally I supply and fit eco600 downlights made by ecostar, they are a very reliable integrated LED fitting, and at only £27+vat each they are a bargain for the quality of them.

 

[AJshep]

I generally fit downlights with a Gu10 lamp holder so you can change the lamp if required.
The reason behind this is because if an integrated one fails in 5 years and the manufacturer changes their design then you may have to change the whole lot or have an odd light.
Intergrated ones are a better light though..

The negatives of GU10 downlights are that you will need to make sure there is space around the fitting.. you cant cover them with insulation like you can with many of the integrated ones so no good if surrounded by Celotex

 

[buzzlightyear]

I generally fit downlights with a Gu10 lamp holder so you can change the lamp if required.
The reason behind this is because if an integrated one fails in 5 years and the manufacturer changes their design then you may have to change the whole lot or have an odd light.
Intergrated ones are a better light though..

The negatives of GU10 downlights are that you will need to make sure there is space around the fitting.. you cant cover them with insulation like you can with many of the integrated ones so no good if surrounded by Celotex

could not put that any better ,barr barr black sheep.lol.

 

[BigReno]

Hi BR and welcome .
Enlite is a quality brand that I use too. Whether you’d like a unit where you can easily replace the lamp is up to you. If GU10, then their 5W 500 lumen warm white lamp would be my choice. The clearance required behind the light and the effect of nearby insulation also varies between models.

thank you, lots to think about!

 

[AJshep]

could not put that any better ,barr barr black sheep.lol

Now now Buzz " It's rainbow sheep "!! Lol but yes sir I have 3 bags full