Why pay for pir assesments

[Atco]

As a time served electrician looking to make a break on my own. I feel a bit cheated by these part p schemes as I feel I've already proved my competance to the jib. However I've decided to join elecsa but don't understand why I should pay more to do pir as these are not notifiable also what's to stop me working on industrial and commercial properties.

 

[DurhamSparky]

you dont need to pay its just another way of them making money on there logo!
nothing to stop you doing comercial and indy work either

p.s im with elecsa and i do it all as well..

 

[SirKit Breaker]

I am with Elecsa, and have been since it all kicked off. To my knowledge they dont stop you doing PIR's under there banner. There is and never has been a requirement to be a member of anything to do these inspections.

Cheers........Howard

 

[telectrix]

not only that, but you do not have to be with any scam (sorry, scheme) or be part p registered to carry out PIR Test/Inspection.

 

[Atco]

Cheers mate just needed it clearing up . I've always worked for an employer so out of the loop when it comes to this stuff. I'm planning on building up custom over the next six months then taking the leap.

 

[Spudnik]

My phone is firmly in the "off" position over xmas.

 

[Atco]

Trouble is all any potential customer is aware of is part p and they think it's a qualification.

 

[telectrix]

easy precis of what work is/isn't notifiable is in the napit brochure which trhey will happily send you if you ask, tell 'em you are considering joining.

 

[rocker]

If you're doing Domestic, you want to be with a scheme whether you 'need' to or not. Pain in the rear but makes everything cheaper and easier in the long run.

The schemes (or at least Elecsa, who I'm with) will say you can go with them for PIRs, and you can if you want to use their certificates, but I think that is the only advantage and you'd have to pay for them! Really all you need to do is find someone who will insure you for Professional Indemnity.....
But you say you've been working for someone and are JIB - does that mean you've been mainly doing new 'site work' rather than house bashing, inspection and testing etc. To do PIRs you need a bit of experience in this field to be honest, if you're new to this side of things I'd give it a miss for a year or two whether you can get the insurance or not.

Part P doesn't apply to Commercial or Industrial. There is no compulsory notification scheme for these areas. Make of that what you will.

 

[DurhamSparky]

Trouble is all any potential customer is aware of is part p and they think it's a qualification.

so do lots of sparks!!

 

[Atco]

I've done a bit of everything from remedials at local uni to currently installing 3200a bus bar trunking. I was thinking pir's in domestic housing rather than factories and what not will I need indemnity insurance for this if so is it hard to obtain

 

[DurhamSparky]

not hard to get but can get expensive!

 

[telectrix]

search web or broker for best deal. public liablity and prof. indemnity can be got as a package and on monthly direct debit. if you are going to employ somebody as well, you will need employers liability on top.see the ad on the right of this page as well.

 

[Atco]

Thanks to all that gave advice. Just got to book my assesment now, as an electrician should I be nervous?

 

[DurhamSparky]

not if plumbers and kitchen fitters can pass!!