Wire nuts just the ticket

[Skys]

Great installation with wire nuts

 

[Dustydazzler]

American owned by Stanley Black & Decker.

Hilti & Makita are two of very few tool brands not owned by large corporations. Think possibly Fein is also wholly owned.

I am guessing Draper Tools is now either owned by the Chinese or Americans ?

 

[123]

I am guessing Draper Tools is now either owned by the Chinese or Americans ?

No, still family owned according to their website...

 

[nicebutdim]

I am guessing Draper Tools is now either owned by the Chinese or Americans ?

Still a British company.

 

[Megawatt]

American owned by Stanley Black & Decker.

Hilti & Makita are two of very few tool brands not owned by large corporations. Think possibly Fein is also wholly owned.

I normally buy Milwaukee drill, saws, etc @ 18vdc

 

[Dustydazzler]

What ever happened to good old Bosch , they were the drill of choice when I did my apprenticeship

 

[nicebutdim]

I normally buy Milwaukee drill, saws, etc @ 18vdc

Been owned by TTI, a Chinese corporation, for almost 20 years.

To be fair, their brands are well known and reputable.

 

[Lucien Nunes]

To be fair, the problem there is not so much that they are wirenuts, but that they have twice as many wires rammed in (unsuccessfully) as they are designed for, no box to live in, and generally a complete lack of skill used in the installation.

@Megawatt this kind of garbage is what UK sparks often think of when wirenuts are mentioned, not least because they were often used in cheap work. We didn't call them wirenuts then, the name of the most popular brand 'Scruit' became a generic term but a more official name was 'thimble connectors.' Better quality work usually had twin-screw porcelain terminal blocks. Either way they were supposed to be housed in proper junction boxes, although they were often found tucked inside the hollow back of mounting blocks for switches and ceiling lights.

 

[Megawatt]

What ever happened to good old Bosch , they were the drill of choice when I did my apprenticeship

I have a Bosch hammer drill

 

[nicebutdim]

I have a Bosch hammer drill

Still widely available over here too. I think he's referring to the fact that they aren't as popular as they once were or even or a lesser standard of quality common across many manufacturers.

 

[Megawatt]

To be fair, the problem there is not so much that they are wirenuts, but that they have twice as many wires rammed in (unsuccessfully) as they are designed for, no box to live in, and generally a complete lack of skill used in the installation.

@Megawatt this kind of garbage is what UK sparks often think of when wirenuts are mentioned, not least because they were often used in cheap work. We didn't call them wirenuts then, the name of the most popular brand 'Scruit' became a generic term but a more official name was 'thimble connectors.' Better quality work usually had twin-screw porcelain terminal blocks. Either way they were supposed to be housed in proper junction boxes, although they were often found tucked inside the hollow back of mounting blocks for switches and ceiling lights.

I have to agree with you, we have so called electricians who don’t give a crap. If you use the right size wire nut and not trying to cram 10 wires in the and you tighten them correctly they work fine. Never ever make a splice outside a junction box with a cover and has to be accessible. Some of the idiots make people like me look bad. Sometimes I go out on a job and would like to slap the last so called electrician that work on anything. I get a lot of calls going behind a cowboy electrician who couldn’t fix a simple problem. You are the man. @ Lucien and hope your feeling better

 

[Vortigern]

They are selling Scruits in Walsall right now. No good for joining wires really as it's one more problem when testing, having to untwist/stress them, not good.

 

[Dustydazzler]

They are selling Scruits in Walsall right now. No good for joining wires really as it's one more problem when testing, having to untwist/stress them, not good.

When ever I have had to untwist a bunch of solid twisted up copper wires they all tend to break off and snap

 

[Mike Johnson]

Isn't that what they are designed to do so you have nice clean copper to use back in the wire nut?