Wiring in thatch loft

[yellowvanman]

Just done an EICR for a thatched property, number of issues but 2 which are not so easy to fix:

1) Twin and earth cable run all around loft space, quite haphazardly (no thermal insulation around) - in a few places mice have had a little nibble at the cable. Can see underlying black/red insulation but no copper, so not major at this time.
Options: rewire in rodent proof cable
Enclose cable in conduit/trunking
Protect cable with metal capping

I'll probably be using a combination of all 3 - any other ideas?

2) Twin and earth clipped around the house for outside lights. Since being installed house has been re-thatched and now part of the cable is enclosed/covered by the thatch. Not sure how easy its going to be to get the cable out from under the thatch.
Anyone else dealt with a similar problem?

 

[GLENNSPARK]

no...
but a good reason to get the joistrippers out...

 

[gaz101]

Mi. or. Swa. Or. Galv conduit

or move wiring below ceiling

 

[ElectriCall]

Conduit is good if its accessable to do so, replacing the cables damaged aswell. Thatch's are a pain

 

[Adamsparks]

You can have my girlfriends cat, put that up there, doing both of us a favour

 

[Rockingit]

I just priced/unavailed myself out of a thatched EICR this week for just this reason - had too much bother to be worth it written all over it!! Customer's not called Sue by any chance??!!

 

[GLENNSPARK]

You can have my girlfriends cat, put that up there, doing both of us a favour

well...if its doing that `kneading` thing ...that they do.... you know when they want to shag you...perhaps you need to get one of them plug in pheromone thingys...like them advertised on telly....that should keep it occupied for an hour.....

 

[yellowvanman]

Customer's not called Sue by any chance??!!

No !!!!

 

[Guest55]

1. damaged cables in loft - whatever your customer wants to pay for really

2. cables for outside lights - if the ins. res. readings are ok and what you can see is undamaged then i wouldnt do anything , its not as if you can defect code it for just being there.
;-)

 

[Silly Sausage]

I just priced/unavailed myself out of a thatched EICR this week for just this reason - had too much bother to be worth it written all over it!! Customer's not called Sue by any chance??!!

Why would you price yourself out of a job?!
Do the I&T, pocket cash and Adiós Amigo!

Anyway, statistics show that only 5% of Thatch fires are of electrical origin, vast majority are wood burner related.

 

[Knobhead]

MICC for me.

If you change anything talk to the insurance company first.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

1. damaged cables in loft - whatever your customer wants to pay for really

2. cables for outside lights - if the ins. res. readings are ok and what you can see is undamaged then i wouldnt do anything , its not as if you can defect code it for just being there.
;-)

could be an appropriate for external influences though Biff:

Wiring system(s) appropriate for the type and nature of the installation and external​

influences (Section 522)

 

[DPG]

Last thing you want is a burnt thatch Daz

 

[Rockingit]

Why would you price yourself out of a job?!
Do the I&T, pocket cash and Adiós Amigo!

Anyway, statistics show that only 5% of Thatch fires are of electrical origin, vast majority are wood burner related.

Because
1) I know it wouldn't just have stayed at the I&T, there would have been an expectation to do the remedial work as well and
2) I already know the customer; she's the alcoholic old soak sister of another (nice) customer, the place is a tip and I've already been there in the past to do a couple of quick jobs that just went on and on and on...

Plus, I'm quite busy at the moment anyway.

 

[yellowvanman]

2. cables for outside lights - if the ins. res. readings are ok and what you can see is undamaged then i wouldnt do anything , its not as if you can defect code it for just being there.
;-)

Observation was based on a quote from an NICEIC document regarding Electrical Installations in Thatched Buildings:

"cables and wiring systems should NOT be installed immediately under, through or over the thatch"

I appreciate that its probably been like that for a while but if i see it I'm obliged to record it.