The speed limit is different for vans, but what is the changeover point? Would a car derived van be classed as a van as far as speed limits go, or is it a car?
 
No. a derived vehicle , the national limit applies. (also local restrictions)
The speed limit is the maximum , not the minimum.
 
I try not to it generally hurts. When you use 2 wheels as well, you tend to keep it down in 30 mph zones, there are plenty of folks about who think its OK to do all sorts of stupid things!

In this crazy world of overpaid poncy footballers and crackpot politicians, I would like to say that if anyone wants to watch some real men risking everything in pursuit of their dreams, have a watch of these lads over the next two weeks. I guarantee you will find yourself gripping the side of your armchair as they race with the devil at speeds that defy belief. Free-view channel 24.

Unfortunately, in Northern Ireland at least, there have been several spectator deaths, (that's not even to mention Rider deaths) as a result of these 'real mean risking everything in pursuit of their dreams'.
I'm not having a go sparksburnout, I just found your comments interesting having read the other thread - I guess there are plenty of folks about who think its OK to do all sorts of stupid things.
 
The speed limit is different for vans, but what is the changeover point? Would a car derived van be classed as a van as far as speed limits go, or is it a car?

Car derived vehicles are classed as cars.
Vans are classed as goods vehicles, unless a dual purpose vehicle, camper van, or van classed as a people carrier.
Vans can do up to 50 on a single carriageway, 60 on a dual carriageway, and 70 on a motorway.

https://www.gov.uk/speed-limits
 
Pete , It's a breeze. It is more of a discussion with observations and interaction , than any kind of test.
You do not have to answer up if you don't want to.

As has been said you have just got to turn up on time and behave.
It is actually quite interesting to see who you are sharing the road with.
 
Unfortunately, in Northern Ireland at least, there have been several spectator deaths, (that's not even to mention Rider deaths) as a result of these 'real mean risking everything in pursuit of their dreams'.
I'm not having a go sparksburnout, I just found your comments interesting having read the other thread - I guess there are plenty of folks about who think its OK to do all sorts of stupid things.
I don't really understand your reasoning here. All of the riders, spectators, marshals and medics know exactly what the score is and attend willingly. It might be on a public road, but to all extents and purposes it becomes a racetrack during the practice and races. It is entirely different from the public roads. You seem to be insinuating that theses guys are not brave, name me another sport where those competing restart their sport just minutes after one of them has had a tragic and often fatal accident in pursuit of the ultimate goal?
 
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It is not universally 70mph, the speed limit is different for vans, LGVs, HGVs, vehicles with trailers etc etc.
It's universally 70mph for cars, and I was driving a car.

So how would you categorise something like this?
Nobody seems to mention a 'van-derived car'.
 
I don't really understand your reasoning here. All of the riders, spectators, marshals and medics know exactly what the score is and attend willingly. It might be on a public road, but to all extents and purposes it becomes a racetrack during the practice and races. It is entirely different from the public roads. You seem to be insinuating that theses guys are not brave, name me another sport where those competing restart their sport just minutes after one of them has had a tragic and often fatal accident in pursuit of the ultimate goal?


You’ve perhaps inadvertently made my point by way of your question, I really can't think of another sport where the participants would do such a thing.

Your reference of ‘real men’ certainly wouldn't come to mind – something more like ‘Just kin think about it for christs sake’ perhaps :wink_smile:
 
You’ve perhaps inadvertently made my point by way of your question, I really can't think of another sport where the participants would do such a thing.

Your reference of ‘real men’ certainly wouldn't come to mind – something more like ‘Just kin think about it for christs sake’ perhaps :wink_smile:
Well, I guess we are not going to agree on this! The point I was trying to make is that on a public road (where ordinary drivers speed and do other stupid things), innocent people get caught up. When I was making a reference to "real" men I was really meaning in sport, when you see the way the likes of Christiano Ronaldo & Co conduct themselves.
Anyway, have a look at this, one of your countrymen, what a great lad. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsZBXlTHPCg

Admin edit; NSFW. Not for kids or those who are squeamish.
 
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