You gotta laugh....

[Deleted member 9648]

Went to an educational establishment today which is a regular client,the complaint being an external RCD socket tripping instantly every time it is switched on even with nothing plugged in. Knowing from a previous EICR that the offending socket was an MK masterseal I went equipped with a new unit,but just a standard switched masterseal as I also knew the circuit has RCBO protection in the DB and those RCD sockets aint cheap.
The maintenance bod there was appalled,and despite my best attempts to explain the pointlessness of an RCD socket he insisted it had to be an RCD socket as "the one at the mains is too far away, and if that trips there will still be a current flow in the rest of the cable untill it is empty so to speak. So unless the RCD is at the socket you'll still be electrocuted"

So I'll be back next week with an MK masterseal RCD socket......£££££ wasted and a new electrical theory learnt.

Every days a school day.

 

[Darkwood]

I would have gone to the headmaster/mistress and explained the situe' and if they still want to do as the maintenance requested it will cost 2 call out and a restock charge for the unused socket, also explaining that it doesn't comply to regulations as it stands, mentioning the maintenance guys knowledge of electrics is something to desired - unless of course you got your feet under the table and its not worth ruffling the feathers.

 

[Deleted member 9648]

I would have gone to the headmaster/mistress and explained the situe' and if they still want to do as the maintenance requested it will cost 2 call out and a restock charge for the unused socket, also explaining that it doesn't comply to regulations as it stands, mentioning the maintenance guys knowledge of electrics is something to desired - unless of course you got your feet under the table and its not worth ruffling the feathers.

Summed it up nicely there!! The calls come from them.
I will issue a MW though, which will state that the RCD socket was installed on the insistance of the maintenance dept despite not being required. I doubt they'll even read it but it'll cover me.

 

[malcolmsanford]

Went to an educational establishment today which is a regular client,the complaint being an external RCD socket tripping instantly every time it is switched on even with nothing plugged in. Knowing from a previous EICR that the offending socket was an MK masterseal I went equipped with a new unit,but just a standard switched masterseal as I also knew the circuit has RCBO protection in the DB and those RCD sockets aint cheap.
The maintenance bod there was appalled,and despite my best attempts to explain the pointlessness of an RCD socket he insisted it had to be an RCD socket as "the one at the mains is too far away, and if that trips there will still be a current flow in the rest of the cable untill it is empty so to speak. So unless the RCD is at the socket you'll still be electrocuted"

So I'll be back next week with an MK masterseal RCD socket......£££££ wasted and a new electrical theory learnt.

Every days a school day.

Any betting we have a plumber here

 

[richy3333]

Any betting we have a plumber here

I think that screwball logic is to 'clever' for a plumber!

 

[ifindoubtdont]

Any plumber worth his salt knows that what he talking about was back pressure.

 

[baldsparkies]

So the conversation goes,
All the lights on the entire floor are not working !! (Its an open plan office) and plenty of windows for natural light to flood in.
Must be a phase down, or something along those lines, me thinks as I plod through the traffic.
When on site, and through the background rumble of tele sales conversations as they do there sales pitch thing.
I am approached by a tall skinny irate character who says no lights since this morning, its now 11 am, its simply not good enough, and I have called H&S because non of the emergency lights are operating.
Mmmmm, strange!! Because all the led's on the e/m's are illuminated ??
I glance at the grid switch by the main lobby door (Its just a few meters away from us)
Click, Click, Click, Click, and Click as one by one I turn them on and bank by bank 600x600 fittings burst into life illuminating all and sundry.
I explain to him that what he has just witnessed is a normal requirement for his lights to work, its called switching them on.
H&S are on sight (its one of there in house guys)
The tall one is apparently one of there directors.
I am requested to label the top of the grid switch OFF and the bottom ON to save future confusion.
One call out charge invoice issued (who cares) just bite me tongue and save the chuckles for when I'm outside.

 

[Deleted member 9648]

Whilst on the subject of plumbers,I did a callout thursday to an assisted flat where the complaint was 'new dishwasher problem,plumber has attended,caused £600 worth of damage to the flat below after failing to connect the water correctly,plumber says there's no power at the socket so it's still not working and advised calling an electrician'.

I attend,plug in earth loop...no power...look behind bread bin on worktop,switch on FCU,power to socket. A bad day in plumber land.