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The rules should prevent people with such incomes from buying social housing. Full Stop.
Bob Crowe wasn't buying it though, that's the whole point. He could have and got a massive discount but chose not to.
The rules should also prevent people buying state assets at a huge discount.
 
Bob Crowe wasn't buying it though, that's the whole point. He could have and got a massive discount but chose not to.
The rules should also prevent people buying state assets at a huge discount.

I didn't suggest he was buying it. My point about Bob Crowe is that people of such means shouldn't be in social housing!
 
However, let's have your top 10 Murdoch.


  1. All Council and Government owned “brown field sites” - to be used for building social housing for UK workers, rent based on income of household and no tenancies for life.
  2. Council tax based on the value of house (with the upper limit removed and many additional levels added) plus the number of people in the household over 18
  3. No religious schools what so ever
  4. For businesses based outside the UK (for tax purposes) would be charged a percentage of turn over instead of corporation tax.
  5. Scrap Income based JSA and Contributions based JSA so there is a single scheme.
  6. Get rid of the PCSO’s and use the funds to employ more frontline police
  7. Income tax threshold raised by 50% for people who are self employed PLUS allow them to make additional contributions via NI to top up their pensions
  8. Reduce the number of MP’s so that each one would represent approx 100,00 people
  9. Eligibility to become an MP = 20 years working in the private sector
  10. MP’s expenses to be scrutinised by a “board” of normal people, all receipts for expenses of over £5
 
I agree with a lot of that mate we have more in common than I'd thought:)
Why is the number of people over 18 relevant to number two though? Local authority services are not necessarily going to be used more by a house with 2 parents with 19yo triplets than a 2 parent, 6yo triplets house.
 
I agree with a lot of that mate we have more in common than I'd thought:)
Why is the number of people over 18 relevant to number two though? Local authority services are not necessarily going to be used more by a house with 2 parents with 19yo triplets than a 2 parent, 6yo triplets house.

Local services, for example in Slough are collapsing under the pressure of the needs of the people living there. Slough has a massive number of HMO's filled with people from all over the world, working for little. In "my world" all those over 18 should be paying for the local community.

For those in Scotland could be in for a nasty surprise, whether they stay or go as the plans include allowing Scotland to levy a "local income tax" of 5%

Scots under Alec Salmond will be paying more whether they stay or go....
 
Their bins don't get emptied any more regularly than the little old dear who lives on her own next door though. Doctors and hospitals aren't funded through council taxation.
If those ten workers were getting more services provided for the same amount then yes I'm going to be objecting but what about the younger couple with 3 children aged between 5 and 16? They're the ones who are sing council services more because their kids are going to school, why aren't they going to pay more than little old Mrs Widow?
 
Their bins don't get emptied any more regularly than the little old dear who lives on her own next door though. Doctors and hospitals aren't funded through council taxation.
If those ten workers were getting more services provided for the same amount then yes I'm going to be objecting but what about the younger couple with 3 children aged between 5 and 16? They're the ones who are sing council services more because their kids are going to school, why aren't they going to pay more than little old Mrs Widow?

Mrs Widow, or anyone on their own gets a discount as it is.........
 
Another thing I'd like to see is rehabilitation in prisons. A lot of crime is related to poverty, whether that be financial poverty or poverty of aspiration is for another thread.
I watched something a few months back where Gordon Ramsey set up a scheme in a nick which went on to be self financing and actually turned in a profit. He set up a training regime where he got some lags through elementary catering qualifications, once they were through them he got them producing cakes, flapjacks etc and used his industry contacts to get in front of the buyers for several chains like Café Nero. They sampled the produce and gave him a trial order which sold very successfully, the trial order was then rolled out over a wider and wider area.
As the scheme brought in more money he used it to finance higher qualifications and as the inmates were coming to the end of their sentences, once again he used his industry contacts to get some of them interviews with restaurants, hotels, coffee chains etc and a lot of them got jobs and became worthwhile members of society.
Obviously this will only work with non violent offenders but it's pointless just locking people up.
Make the prison regime one where you enter with no entitlements (no luxuries)but if you work at it and toe the line there's a carrot on the end of the prison stick

There was a similar scheme where young persons with an affection to TWOC were given opportunities relating to cars (mechanics, if IRC). I seem to remember there was a much lower %age of re-offenders
 

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