3 Phase Distribution Board Dilema

[SparkingMad1997]

Hello All

So I'm not long out of my college days and unfortunately I didn't have a lot of exposure to three phase and commercial wiring systems. I have a three phase switch fuse Isolator rated at 200Amp supplied by the landlord. I need to split this across two Proteus distribution boards, the main switches and Busbars are rated for 100 amps 3 phase. I need the full 200amps so I can't just swap the fuses out in the Isolator. So my question is... between the boards and Isolator how would you go about fusing down? A 6 way ryefield, 100 per phase?

Thanks

 

[westward10]

Three phase or single phase Proteus boards?

 

[SparkingMad1997]

Three phase or single phase Proteus boards?

Three phase

 

[westward10]

Three phase

I reread your first post and realised. Are you sure they aren't 125A?
If you need the full 200A and have space just install additional switch fuses.

 

[pc1966]

Can you fit a 100A MCCB incomer to those Proteus boards?

If so just make sure all the cable up to each board's incomer is rated to clear the 200A fuses.

 

[Flanders]

I see 3 options.
4 way to mccb panel
Ryfield unit
or bus bar chambers with 2x 100 amp switch fuses or with some DBs you can fit a mccb to use as the main switch. Schieder is one example I know of.

 

[SparkingMad1997]

Wow a few options coming at me here.

Sooo MCCB option, seems like a viable idea but then I'd need to bolt 2 sets of 95mm tails to the switch fuse unless a busbar chamber is used?? In which case we may as well just fit one 95mm tail and use fuses in the chamber?

Please forgive my lack of knowledge on commercial, I'll try to keep up!

 

[pc1966]

First you need to see if you can get MCCB incomers - a quick look at the CEF site for Proteus was not too hopeful (only seem to have isolator switches), but worth asking them for that.

Next big point is how far is each TPN board from your 200A switched-fuse? If it is a short distance then it is reasonable to use incomers (if available!) and 200A cable, but if a significant distance to one or the other then fusing down at origin is a better plan.

As @Flanders suggested you can do the split in several ways: MCCB boards are good for complicated set-ups and if unskilled people might have to reset a breaker, but fuses in the form of a pair of switched-fuses or a small Ryfield board are often cheaper and have a better trade off in terms of operating current versus end of cable Zs to meet 5s disconnection (assuming TN here).

 

[SparkingMad1997]

First you need to see if you can get MCCB incomers - a quick look at the CEF site for Proteus was not too hopeful (only seem to have isolator switches), but worth asking them for that.

Next big point is how far is each TPN board from your 200A switched-fuse? If it is a short distance then it is reasonable to use incomers (if available!) and 200A cable, but if a significant distance to one or the other then fusing down at origin is a better plan.

As @Flanders suggested you can do the split in several ways: MCCB boards are good for complicated set-ups and if unskilled people might have to reset a breaker, but fuses in the form of a pair of switched-fuses or a small Ryfield board are often cheaper and have a better trade off in terms of operating current versus end of cable Zs to meet 5s disconnection (assuming TN here).

So my set up is all confined to a small intake room where you couldn't even swing a piece of conduit at the apprentice. I have a roughly 800mm length of 4inch trunking with the Isolator on top, the main dB to the right and a 500mm space between the board and Isolator on top of the trunking for a Ryefield. This seemed like the easiest option and one which I've has experience with! Cost the factor which has lead me here.

 

[westward10]

I doubt Proteus do 947-2 incomers.