Lighting Junction box in loft with 9 cables in??

[ManchesterKirchoff]

Doing a rewire at the minute and was wondering if anyone has ever seen or heard of a lighting circuit being connected somewhere in an installation with 8/9 cables connected.

I’m an apprentice so I’m curious about most things and was wondering if you was to do an EICR how you would code this and would you immediately suggest rewiring that particular circuit?

 

[bill01803]

It was common years ago to have a RB4 / J701 in the middle of the roof space with all the cables in, nowadays more common to have cables in switches

 

[ManchesterKirchoff]

It was common years ago to have a RB4 / J701 in the middle of the roof space with all the cables in, nowadays more common to have cables in switches

Cheers bill, would this be cause for concern if you was to see this or would you deem it acceptable as long as all connections are secure?

 

[timhoward]

What would concern you about it?

I sometimes do similar today if it’s a Quinetic setup with no switch wires.

 

[oscar21]

Surewire do something similar, I used one once when re-wiring several atic rooms and it was impractical to get multiple cables to either the rose or the switch, it was ideal for the situation but the build quality was a bit flimsy I thought.

 

[ManchesterKirchoff]

What would concern you about it?

I sometimes do similar today if it’s a Quinetic setup with no switch wires.

To be fair it does seem like a non issue really by the response from you and Bill, actually seems useful in certain cases such as yours.

I work primarily in social housing so I haven’t come across wiring like this before (not to say it doesn’t occur), but it made me wonder whether it would be worth suggesting to a customer that the wiring should be updated.

 

[Dustydazzler]

A central junction box up in the loft was pretty common in the old council houses in my area. the only thing you need to watch out for is sometimes I have found the cpcs all snipped off ( as all the switches were plastic )

 

[SJD]

How about these, in the lofts of a row of local bungalows, from the 1960's. Connections for each light and each switch drop, plus feed from CU. Generally all in perfect condition, and good for continued service.

 

[HappyHippyDad]

To be fair it does seem like a non issue really by the response from you and Bill, actually seems useful in certain cases such as yours.

I work primarily in social housing so I haven’t come across wiring like this before (not to say it doesn’t occur), but it made me wonder whether it would be worth suggesting to a customer that the wiring should be updated.

Always good to question things.

This is just the way it was sometimes done however many years ago. Just because something looks different to the more common or modern way of doing things it does not mean it is wrong or dangerous. As DustyDazler said, on occasion you will see some or many of the CPC's chopped off in the large junction box or perhaps all left bare and wrapped around the back of it. Both of these issues would need rectifying.

Some of these old, large junction boxes look well terminated, sometimes far better than a spiders web of wago's all crushed in.

Keep asking questions

 

[Dustydazzler]

How about these, in the lofts of a row of local bungalows, from the 1960's. Connections for each light and each switch drop, plus feed from CU. Generally all in perfect condition, and good for continued service.

My uncle recently brought a 1960s detached bungalow and it has a pyro box like that in the loft ( the only one I have seen in person ) and the irony is when he brought the bungalow the seller said the house had been fully rewired. I pointed out to him unless they had a time machine that pyro box was original to the build.